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		<title>By: Hipolito M. Wiseman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hipolito M. Wiseman</dc:creator>
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		<description>There are some interesting points in time in this article but I don’t know if I see all of them center to heart. There is some validity but I will take hold opinion until I look into it further. Good article , thanks and we want more! Added to FeedBurner as well</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are some interesting points in time in this article but I don’t know if I see all of them center to heart. There is some validity but I will take hold opinion until I look into it further. Good article , thanks and we want more! Added to FeedBurner as well</p>
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		<title>By: Angila Vitera</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angila Vitera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Nov 2011 07:07:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spot on with this write-up, I truly think this web site needs way more consideration. I’ll probably be again to read much more, thanks for that info.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spot on with this write-up, I truly think this web site needs way more consideration. I’ll probably be again to read much more, thanks for that info.</p>
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		<title>By: carnivore</title>
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		<dc:creator>carnivore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Dec 2010 22:25:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where does the need for God come- before or after the needs for food, clothing, and shelter? The need for God came when people had no explanations for the sun rising in the morning or the cycle of seasons. People invented gods as the omnipotent providers of unfathomable miracles. When those miracles failed to provide food or safety, sacrifices were made to the gods to appease their wrath. Science showed that these gods had no validity. Does the God of Abraham need to be validated by science or philosophy? Will He validate my parking ticket? Does it really matter? Discussing these questions is a masturbatory exercise of excessive self-satisfaction. Yawn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where does the need for God come- before or after the needs for food, clothing, and shelter? The need for God came when people had no explanations for the sun rising in the morning or the cycle of seasons. People invented gods as the omnipotent providers of unfathomable miracles. When those miracles failed to provide food or safety, sacrifices were made to the gods to appease their wrath. Science showed that these gods had no validity. Does the God of Abraham need to be validated by science or philosophy? Will He validate my parking ticket? Does it really matter? Discussing these questions is a masturbatory exercise of excessive self-satisfaction. Yawn.</p>
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		<title>By: Shalom Freedman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shalom Freedman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 09:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it were possible to &#039;prove&#039; the existence of God, then where would be human freedom, decision and faith? 
God does not give us proof of 
God&#039;s Existence so that we can choose for God, or not. 
The disproving of the proofs for the existence of God is thus for Jews an irrelevant exercise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it were possible to &#8216;prove&#8217; the existence of God, then where would be human freedom, decision and faith?<br />
God does not give us proof of<br />
God&#8217;s Existence so that we can choose for God, or not.<br />
The disproving of the proofs for the existence of God is thus for Jews an irrelevant exercise.</p>
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		<title>By: shelley</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 13:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>many years ago when i was interviewing a palestinian activist, i made a snide comment about the 70 odd virgins waiting for islamic martyrs in heaven, to which she replied &quot;that&#039;s no more incredible than u Jews believing God gave u the Land of Israel&quot;.....as a  secular Jew and Israeli that hit a home run .....eventually I reasoned that  even if we take God out of the equation it is a historical fact that the hebrews were and are a tribe and I am a descendant</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>many years ago when i was interviewing a palestinian activist, i made a snide comment about the 70 odd virgins waiting for islamic martyrs in heaven, to which she replied &#8220;that&#8217;s no more incredible than u Jews believing God gave u the Land of Israel&#8221;&#8230;..as a  secular Jew and Israeli that hit a home run &#8230;..eventually I reasoned that  even if we take God out of the equation it is a historical fact that the hebrews were and are a tribe and I am a descendant</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Benedikt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Benedikt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 13:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shalom Freedman; I think you might be saying:

Humans are theogenic, God ethicogenic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shalom Freedman; I think you might be saying:</p>
<p>Humans are theogenic, God ethicogenic.</p>
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		<title>By: Shane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 01:29:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shalom Freedman Says:
8:46 AM Jan 15, 2010

There is an argument for the existence of God, which I call the ‘argument from need’. We need God to exist in order to have the hope that those who we most care about will not one day be only ‘vanity of vanities’. This is in some sense not a proof and it is possible to argue it is the opposite of a proof, since it shows the strong impulse of human beings to ‘make up’ the existence of such a God.
It seems to me however that the need is an expression of human will and hope. It is not a proof in the existence of God in a two plus two equals four sense. But rather something like a decision to believe in and trust in God, an act of will on our part.
The proof for God’s existence is in our wagering on the existence of God.
And the paradox is that out of this wager and out of this belief can come a relationship which gives ‘proof of God’s existence’ in other ways. i.e. as for instance in prayer when we somehow ‘know God is listening’when we are truly praying.
So what ‘belief’ means is not simple intellectual assent it means ‘life- decision’.

Freedman you in-effect refuted your own argument you said : &quot;There is an argument for the existence of God, which I call the ‘argument from need’&quot;...&quot;This is in some sense not a proof and it is possible to argue it is the opposite of a proof&quot;. 

Are you proposing an argument for God (Which in this case fails as it is a fallacy to assume need therefore equals existence) or not?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shalom Freedman Says:<br />
8:46 AM Jan 15, 2010</p>
<p>There is an argument for the existence of God, which I call the ‘argument from need’. We need God to exist in order to have the hope that those who we most care about will not one day be only ‘vanity of vanities’. This is in some sense not a proof and it is possible to argue it is the opposite of a proof, since it shows the strong impulse of human beings to ‘make up’ the existence of such a God.<br />
It seems to me however that the need is an expression of human will and hope. It is not a proof in the existence of God in a two plus two equals four sense. But rather something like a decision to believe in and trust in God, an act of will on our part.<br />
The proof for God’s existence is in our wagering on the existence of God.<br />
And the paradox is that out of this wager and out of this belief can come a relationship which gives ‘proof of God’s existence’ in other ways. i.e. as for instance in prayer when we somehow ‘know God is listening’when we are truly praying.<br />
So what ‘belief’ means is not simple intellectual assent it means ‘life- decision’.</p>
<p>Freedman you in-effect refuted your own argument you said : &#8220;There is an argument for the existence of God, which I call the ‘argument from need’&#8221;&#8230;&#8221;This is in some sense not a proof and it is possible to argue it is the opposite of a proof&#8221;. </p>
<p>Are you proposing an argument for God (Which in this case fails as it is a fallacy to assume need therefore equals existence) or not?</p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 14:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a question for Rebecca. What is the difference between the Hasidic rabbi who says that &quot;All is God&quot; and Spinoza?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a question for Rebecca. What is the difference between the Hasidic rabbi who says that &#8220;All is God&#8221; and Spinoza?</p>
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		<title>By: babrock</title>
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		<dc:creator>babrock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 10:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have never found any aurgments from need or ontalogical aurguments persuasive.  

At some point in my life as a young adualt I made a leap of faith that I would be happyer.  Surprisingly this worked rather well actualy.  It became a self fulfilling prophecy.

This is what it sounds to me that people are doing w these arguments, trying to manufacture a god thru act of faith alone. While this worked reasonably well w me being a bit happyer, I donot see that this works in creating any actual god tho, any more than faith in a refrigerator sized diamond buried in my back yard makes that a reality.

Unless one is willing to define god as mearly a state of mind, then isnot this more like an imaginary huge diamond?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have never found any aurgments from need or ontalogical aurguments persuasive.  </p>
<p>At some point in my life as a young adualt I made a leap of faith that I would be happyer.  Surprisingly this worked rather well actualy.  It became a self fulfilling prophecy.</p>
<p>This is what it sounds to me that people are doing w these arguments, trying to manufacture a god thru act of faith alone. While this worked reasonably well w me being a bit happyer, I donot see that this works in creating any actual god tho, any more than faith in a refrigerator sized diamond buried in my back yard makes that a reality.</p>
<p>Unless one is willing to define god as mearly a state of mind, then isnot this more like an imaginary huge diamond?</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 04:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Well, I have an inclination toward the idea that the world explains itself, that the world is thoroughly self-contained, that if we had a complete vision of the world we could understand why it had to exist. If you describe that as a religious point of view, as Spinoza does, then you could say I had a religious point of view. Do I actually believe that? I’d like to believe that. The idea of explanatory gaps in the universe is ugly to me.&quot;

This paragraph is funny</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Well, I have an inclination toward the idea that the world explains itself, that the world is thoroughly self-contained, that if we had a complete vision of the world we could understand why it had to exist. If you describe that as a religious point of view, as Spinoza does, then you could say I had a religious point of view. Do I actually believe that? I’d like to believe that. The idea of explanatory gaps in the universe is ugly to me.&#8221;</p>
<p>This paragraph is funny</p>
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		<title>By: Aaberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 01:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I fully agree NewEnglandBob.</description>
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		<title>By: NewEnglandBob</title>
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		<dc:creator>NewEnglandBob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 21:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This book is next on my list. I wont comment on the book until I read it.

These comments here though are a huge pile of horseshit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This book is next on my list. I wont comment on the book until I read it.</p>
<p>These comments here though are a huge pile of horseshit.</p>
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		<title>By: Sankara Saranam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sankara Saranam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 16:16:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. At a time, 50,000 years ago, when all humans were in Africa and some were about to embark on a journey to Asia and Australia, did the notion of Jews exist?


2. If Jews did not ontologically exist back then, did they ever exist?


3. If Judaism exists as a culture, as a way of life, as a set of practices and rituals, but only ontologically as make-believe, is the Jewish identity justified, especially when we consider the amount of wars fought over such identities and when the Jewish identity itself is not even monolithic, promoting conflict between so-called Jews with different sets of practices and rituals, ways of life, and cultures?


Let&#039;s hope she asks questions like these.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. At a time, 50,000 years ago, when all humans were in Africa and some were about to embark on a journey to Asia and Australia, did the notion of Jews exist?</p>
<p>2. If Jews did not ontologically exist back then, did they ever exist?</p>
<p>3. If Judaism exists as a culture, as a way of life, as a set of practices and rituals, but only ontologically as make-believe, is the Jewish identity justified, especially when we consider the amount of wars fought over such identities and when the Jewish identity itself is not even monolithic, promoting conflict between so-called Jews with different sets of practices and rituals, ways of life, and cultures?</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s hope she asks questions like these.</p>
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		<title>By: elixelx</title>
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		<dc:creator>elixelx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 15:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One more G-d besotted &quot;atheist&quot;, a la Malcolm Muggeridge!
let me tell you all something: If You have a lot of time for Him, He has plenty of time for you
One would have thought that you would spend LESS, NOT MORE, TIME thinking considering reading and writing about what you say cannot be!
As I said, Besotted! Like all addicts, you hate most what you most desire!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more G-d besotted &#8220;atheist&#8221;, a la Malcolm Muggeridge!<br />
let me tell you all something: If You have a lot of time for Him, He has plenty of time for you<br />
One would have thought that you would spend LESS, NOT MORE, TIME thinking considering reading and writing about what you say cannot be!<br />
As I said, Besotted! Like all addicts, you hate most what you most desire!</p>
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		<title>By: Earl Ganz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Earl Ganz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 03:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I think about God He exists. When I don&#039;t, He doesn&#039;t. What is that? An ontological argument? 

I loved your book on Spinoza. In fact it inspired me 
to write a novel about a philosophy professor who teaches Spinoza at the University of Montana. The professor gets into an argument with an Israeli doctor over Israel&#039;s treatment of Palestinians, is challenged to a duel by the doctor, accepts the challenge, goes to a particular pass in Glacier park where the duel was supposed to take place, and is badly mauled by a grizzly. 

What would Spinoza make of that? He had friends who kept him from the mauling mob by tying him to his bed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I think about God He exists. When I don&#8217;t, He doesn&#8217;t. What is that? An ontological argument? </p>
<p>I loved your book on Spinoza. In fact it inspired me<br />
to write a novel about a philosophy professor who teaches Spinoza at the University of Montana. The professor gets into an argument with an Israeli doctor over Israel&#8217;s treatment of Palestinians, is challenged to a duel by the doctor, accepts the challenge, goes to a particular pass in Glacier park where the duel was supposed to take place, and is badly mauled by a grizzly. </p>
<p>What would Spinoza make of that? He had friends who kept him from the mauling mob by tying him to his bed.</p>
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		<title>By: Seth Kupferberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seth Kupferberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 20:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;... if someone thinks like that, why would they dress like that and send their children to Jewish schools? It’s incomprehensible to them, and it’s not incomprehensible to me.&quot;  I too find this readily emotionally comprehensible (and find it hard to imagine a Christian counterpart).  I wonder, though, if there is a way to articulate a defense, in other words, to make it intellectually comprehensible.  I&#039;ve admired Rebecca Goldstein&#039;s work since her first novel, and would be greatly interested in any comment from her on that question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230; if someone thinks like that, why would they dress like that and send their children to Jewish schools? It’s incomprehensible to them, and it’s not incomprehensible to me.&#8221;  I too find this readily emotionally comprehensible (and find it hard to imagine a Christian counterpart).  I wonder, though, if there is a way to articulate a defense, in other words, to make it intellectually comprehensible.  I&#8217;ve admired Rebecca Goldstein&#8217;s work since her first novel, and would be greatly interested in any comment from her on that question.</p>
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		<title>By: Shalom Freedman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shalom Freedman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 13:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is an argument for the existence of God, which I call the &#039;argument from need&#039;. We need God to exist in order to have the hope that those who we most care about will not one day be only &#039;vanity of vanities&#039;. This is in some sense not a proof and it is possible to argue it is the opposite of a proof, since it shows the strong impulse of human beings to &#039;make up&#039; the existence of such a God. 
It seems to me however that the need is an expression of human will and hope. It is not a proof in the existence of God in a two plus two equals four sense. But rather something like a decision to believe in and trust in God, an act of will on our part. 
The proof for God&#039;s existence is in our wagering on the existence of God. 
And the paradox is that out of this wager and out of this belief can come a relationship which gives &#039;proof of God&#039;s existence&#039; in other ways. i.e. as for instance in prayer when we somehow &#039;know God is listening&#039;when we are truly praying. 
So what &#039;belief&#039; means is not simple intellectual assent it means &#039;life- decision&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is an argument for the existence of God, which I call the &#8216;argument from need&#8217;. We need God to exist in order to have the hope that those who we most care about will not one day be only &#8216;vanity of vanities&#8217;. This is in some sense not a proof and it is possible to argue it is the opposite of a proof, since it shows the strong impulse of human beings to &#8216;make up&#8217; the existence of such a God.<br />
It seems to me however that the need is an expression of human will and hope. It is not a proof in the existence of God in a two plus two equals four sense. But rather something like a decision to believe in and trust in God, an act of will on our part.<br />
The proof for God&#8217;s existence is in our wagering on the existence of God.<br />
And the paradox is that out of this wager and out of this belief can come a relationship which gives &#8216;proof of God&#8217;s existence&#8217; in other ways. i.e. as for instance in prayer when we somehow &#8216;know God is listening&#8217;when we are truly praying.<br />
So what &#8216;belief&#8217; means is not simple intellectual assent it means &#8216;life- decision&#8217;.</p>
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