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		<title>By: how to stop premature</title>
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		<dc:creator>how to stop premature</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2011 15:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been exploring for a bit for any high quality articles or blog posts on this kind of area . Exploring in Yahoo I at last stumbled upon this web site. Reading this information So i’m happy to convey that I have an incredibly good uncanny feeling I discovered just what I needed. I most certainly will make certain to don’t forget this website and give it a glance on a constant basis.</p>
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		<title>By: a2732883</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Nov 2011 18:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve said that least 2732883 times.  The problem this like that is they are just too compilcated for the average bird, if you know what I mean</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve said that least 2732883 times.  The problem this like that is they are just too compilcated for the average bird, if you know what I mean</p>
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		<title>By: manny</title>
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		<dc:creator>manny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 19:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have not read what said about this but i can well imaging what this is  all  about.  Of course i intend to read it. 
Those persons, Catholic, have long acted and spoken with great superiority as though their way was the only way and for the others, take the highway. This  has always grated.  Anybody should just remind them that the biggest ongoing racketeering enterprise is the VATICAN and the HOLY MOTHER CHURCH. Step right up suckers, empty your pockets and we&#039;ll guarantee your soul.  The right thing would be to try this organization under the corrupt enterprise laws, better known as  lRICO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have not read what said about this but i can well imaging what this is  all  about.  Of course i intend to read it.<br />
Those persons, Catholic, have long acted and spoken with great superiority as though their way was the only way and for the others, take the highway. This  has always grated.  Anybody should just remind them that the biggest ongoing racketeering enterprise is the VATICAN and the HOLY MOTHER CHURCH. Step right up suckers, empty your pockets and we&#8217;ll guarantee your soul.  The right thing would be to try this organization under the corrupt enterprise laws, better known as  lRICO.</p>
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		<title>By: Kate Mathews</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate Mathews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 00:21:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was raised in a non-religious family and was strongly attracted to Judaism in my teens after reading a book by Huston Smith which at that time was titled &quot;The Religions of Man&quot;. For many years I continued to read alot about Judaism and other religions, too, and always felt closest to Judaism.  Christianity seemed,ethically,pretty much like Judaism to me but with a different set of stories, and I found the importance placed on the theme of crucifixion rather puzzling.

However, many years later I was baptized Catholic, seeing Jesus as a Jew who reflected a Jewish ethical and spiritual sense that, for whatever reasons, was transmitted to many non-Jewish peoples in the form of a somewhat different faith.  It was easier,ultimately, for me to become Catholic than Jewish because I happened to know many Catholics who I admired but unfortunately knew few to no Jews personally. 

I&#039;m sure I was far,far too naive, but, though as a Catholic I&#039;m surrounded by many,many wonderful, sincere and open-hearted Christians and have been involved in various interfaith efforts and activities, I&#039;m still surprised and discomfitted, 15 years after my baptism, by the frequent, many times off-hand references to Jews, in the Gospels,in homilies, and in personal comments, as the ones who just didn&#039;t/don&#039;t &quot;get it&quot;, spiritually, a viewpoint which I think is completely incorrect.

Judaism often seems to assume,in Christian thought, the role of the &quot;old clunker&quot; flumping along in the slow lane on the freeway, destined to be passed up by the shiny new luxury sedan of Christianity. This is silly and it&#039;s pretty close to becoming a deal-breaker for me, at this point.

I recently read Rosemary Radford Ruether&#039;s book, &quot;Faith and Fratricide&quot;, which deals with the history of the Jewish-Christian split; a horribly tragic history.  Christianity has yet to come to terms with its own sins in this regard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was raised in a non-religious family and was strongly attracted to Judaism in my teens after reading a book by Huston Smith which at that time was titled &#8220;The Religions of Man&#8221;. For many years I continued to read alot about Judaism and other religions, too, and always felt closest to Judaism.  Christianity seemed,ethically,pretty much like Judaism to me but with a different set of stories, and I found the importance placed on the theme of crucifixion rather puzzling.</p>
<p>However, many years later I was baptized Catholic, seeing Jesus as a Jew who reflected a Jewish ethical and spiritual sense that, for whatever reasons, was transmitted to many non-Jewish peoples in the form of a somewhat different faith.  It was easier,ultimately, for me to become Catholic than Jewish because I happened to know many Catholics who I admired but unfortunately knew few to no Jews personally. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure I was far,far too naive, but, though as a Catholic I&#8217;m surrounded by many,many wonderful, sincere and open-hearted Christians and have been involved in various interfaith efforts and activities, I&#8217;m still surprised and discomfitted, 15 years after my baptism, by the frequent, many times off-hand references to Jews, in the Gospels,in homilies, and in personal comments, as the ones who just didn&#8217;t/don&#8217;t &#8220;get it&#8221;, spiritually, a viewpoint which I think is completely incorrect.</p>
<p>Judaism often seems to assume,in Christian thought, the role of the &#8220;old clunker&#8221; flumping along in the slow lane on the freeway, destined to be passed up by the shiny new luxury sedan of Christianity. This is silly and it&#8217;s pretty close to becoming a deal-breaker for me, at this point.</p>
<p>I recently read Rosemary Radford Ruether&#8217;s book, &#8220;Faith and Fratricide&#8221;, which deals with the history of the Jewish-Christian split; a horribly tragic history.  Christianity has yet to come to terms with its own sins in this regard.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Morrissey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Morrissey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 21:27:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absorbing review, but Kung the &quot;foremost&quot; Roman Catholic theologian alive today?  Sorry, that would be Il Papa, baby.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absorbing review, but Kung the &#8220;foremost&#8221; Roman Catholic theologian alive today?  Sorry, that would be Il Papa, baby.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Nussbaum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick Nussbaum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 20:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You say the reform tendency in German Judaism was an attempt at assimilation that ended in catastrophic failure. The Orthodox tendency to self segregation in German Judaism ended in catastrophic failure as well. Clearly the only not futile strategy was to not be a German.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You say the reform tendency in German Judaism was an attempt at assimilation that ended in catastrophic failure. The Orthodox tendency to self segregation in German Judaism ended in catastrophic failure as well. Clearly the only not futile strategy was to not be a German.</p>
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		<title>By: VHJM van Neerven</title>
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		<dc:creator>VHJM van Neerven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 18:12:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear author and readers, 


This is painful. 

Being from Jewish descent (&quot;Polack&quot; was a family name), but raised Catholic, I always try to see Judaism in Christianity. I&#039;ve lead Jewish and Catholic services, but I really fall in between, so I need to search and search. This much I do know: Christianity is the small child of a great Father and his People. In my search, I held Küng in esteem. But after reading this, no more esteem for Mr. Küng from me. Christianity &quot;saving&quot; Judaism is a gotspe and, indeed, a malicious one.

I cannot speak of Mr. Homolka but I tend to believe what Katja Vehlow wrote: It is all so stuck in the thirties-to-fifties. Here in the Netherlands we have similar problem with Protestant theologians, calling new what is in fact more than a generation old. So, they&#039;re Johhny-come-latelies, I can live with that. 
But Mr. Küng&#039;s RC arrogance is of a different class. “(L)eading Jews out of their medieval ghetto … and into modern culture : That&#039;s precisely the argument leveled against Islam these days. To me at least it has all the echoes of the thirties and its gruesome ending, HaShoa. I never forget, I remember; a burden, but a need. My family lives because, as our father said, &quot;The &#039;Ahnenamt&#039; did make mistakes.&quot;

Adam Kirsch, thank you very much for this review. Thanks to you, I can forget about Küng. You have lightened my burden. I can quietly forget about Küng and concentrate on what the Covenenant entails. 

Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear author and readers, </p>
<p>This is painful. </p>
<p>Being from Jewish descent (&#8220;Polack&#8221; was a family name), but raised Catholic, I always try to see Judaism in Christianity. I&#8217;ve lead Jewish and Catholic services, but I really fall in between, so I need to search and search. This much I do know: Christianity is the small child of a great Father and his People. In my search, I held Küng in esteem. But after reading this, no more esteem for Mr. Küng from me. Christianity &#8220;saving&#8221; Judaism is a gotspe and, indeed, a malicious one.</p>
<p>I cannot speak of Mr. Homolka but I tend to believe what Katja Vehlow wrote: It is all so stuck in the thirties-to-fifties. Here in the Netherlands we have similar problem with Protestant theologians, calling new what is in fact more than a generation old. So, they&#8217;re Johhny-come-latelies, I can live with that.<br />
But Mr. Küng&#8217;s RC arrogance is of a different class. “(L)eading Jews out of their medieval ghetto … and into modern culture : That&#8217;s precisely the argument leveled against Islam these days. To me at least it has all the echoes of the thirties and its gruesome ending, HaShoa. I never forget, I remember; a burden, but a need. My family lives because, as our father said, &#8220;The &#8216;Ahnenamt&#8217; did make mistakes.&#8221;</p>
<p>Adam Kirsch, thank you very much for this review. Thanks to you, I can forget about Küng. You have lightened my burden. I can quietly forget about Küng and concentrate on what the Covenenant entails. </p>
<p>Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Schulman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Schulman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 16:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why does Mme. Gutmann call Kueng &quot;well-meaning?&quot;  I doubt such a description could survive a reading the good father&#039;s book on Judaism, which is full of ill-concealed malice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why does Mme. Gutmann call Kueng &#8220;well-meaning?&#8221;  I doubt such a description could survive a reading the good father&#8217;s book on Judaism, which is full of ill-concealed malice.</p>
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		<title>By: Katja Vehlow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katja Vehlow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 03:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a book written in the German context that takes German Jewish thought as its norm, pre 1933 Jewish thought. Walter Homolka sees himself explicitly as a successor of the great liberal thinkers such as Hermann Cohen and Leo Baeck and it shows in his interpretation of what Judaism is or rather, should be in his eyes. No big surprises here. Küng, however, shows himself as someone caught up in out-of-date scholarship, and it seems that neither he nor Homolka read recent works that would show them differently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a book written in the German context that takes German Jewish thought as its norm, pre 1933 Jewish thought. Walter Homolka sees himself explicitly as a successor of the great liberal thinkers such as Hermann Cohen and Leo Baeck and it shows in his interpretation of what Judaism is or rather, should be in his eyes. No big surprises here. Küng, however, shows himself as someone caught up in out-of-date scholarship, and it seems that neither he nor Homolka read recent works that would show them differently.</p>
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		<title>By: Ruth Gutmann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ruth Gutmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 16:55:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Kirsch is correct: German-Jewish reform, whatever its motive may have been, was in the German context, tragically and completely in vain.
As for Mr. Kueng, he has managed to reverse the historical time line of Judaism and Christianity.  It leaves one asking anxiously: if people as well-meaning and well informed as Mr. Kueng can get it so wrong, what can we expect from less sophisticated folk?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Kirsch is correct: German-Jewish reform, whatever its motive may have been, was in the German context, tragically and completely in vain.<br />
As for Mr. Kueng, he has managed to reverse the historical time line of Judaism and Christianity.  It leaves one asking anxiously: if people as well-meaning and well informed as Mr. Kueng can get it so wrong, what can we expect from less sophisticated folk?</p>
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		<title>By: Per</title>
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		<dc:creator>Per</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 15:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed, one may hope that there is a better way to do good and avoid evil than to water down, annul, all differences.  Things do get pretty bland at that level.  But Mr Kirsch&#039;s suggestion that the Shoah somehow delegitimizes &quot;the liberal or Reform tendency in German Judaism,&quot; of previous generations, I think is an unfair leap in thought.  And though I know from having read other excellent work by Mr Kirsch that he wouldn&#039;t engage in &quot;blaming the victim,&quot; I find that leap highly problematic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed, one may hope that there is a better way to do good and avoid evil than to water down, annul, all differences.  Things do get pretty bland at that level.  But Mr Kirsch&#8217;s suggestion that the Shoah somehow delegitimizes &#8220;the liberal or Reform tendency in German Judaism,&#8221; of previous generations, I think is an unfair leap in thought.  And though I know from having read other excellent work by Mr Kirsch that he wouldn&#8217;t engage in &#8220;blaming the victim,&#8221; I find that leap highly problematic.</p>
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