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		<title>By: free chart music</title>
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		<dc:creator>free chart music</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2011 00:16:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jan Niechwiadowicz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jan Niechwiadowicz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 20:40:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always find it strange that the very minor role played by Poles can be portrayed as being major.

First the correction is regarding the running of the camps.  The Holocaust was planned by senior Nazi Germans at the Wannsee Conference without a single Pole being present.  Likewise it was Germans tried at Nuremberg not Poles.

The Poles didn’t work as guards in the death camps.  They were Germans, Austrians, Ukrainians and Latvians in the main. Poles were the largest group of victims in slave-labour camps and the second largest group in death camps such as Auschwitz.

Therefore the statement is misleading.  Any journalist using quotes of this type should make it clear this refers to German camps in occupied Poland.

As David Peleg, The Ambassador of Israel to Warsaw, Poland said: &quot;We, being Jews and Israelis, with reject resolutely terminology such as &quot;Polish concentration camps&quot;. These prejudicial and erroneous phrases represent primarily testimony about ignorance and lack of understanding of fundamental historical truth. Every thinking man knows that it was the Nazis who selected Poland for central site for dreadful genocide of extermination of European Jews. On the Polish soil the Germans built terrifying camps where they systematically murdered 4.5 million Jews (including 3 million Polish Jews) and other nationalities including thousands of Poles.&quot;

Second, to Dusan Kahan claim about Poles betraying Jews.  If this is correct then why Poland did not collaborate with Nazi Germany rather than fight them?  They could have done a deal the way Hungary, Italy, Finland, Bulgaria and Romania did.

Why could the Germans not find senior Poles willing to collaborate unlike in Slovakia, France, Norway and Denmark with puppet governments?

Why were no Polish Waffen-SS?  After all there were Spanish, Estonian, Finnish, Danish, Latvian, Croatian, Ukrainian, Albanian, Dutch, Belgian, Russian, Belarusian, Hungarian, and French Waffen-SS units. 
  
Again the Poles didn’t round up Jews in the ghettos.  This was done by the Germans, with the support mostly of Ukrainians and Jewish collaborators. Instead Poles fought alongside the Jews during the Warsaw ghetto uprising. 

Why did the Polish government want to bomb the concentration and death camps?  Remember it was the Americans and British vetoed the idea. 

Why did the Polish government spread knowledge of atrocities committed against Jews when the American and British governments tried to suppress it? 

Why do Poles make up the largest number of righteous (i.e. those who aided Jews)?  Poland have as many righteous as Belgium, Lithuania, Hungary, Belarus, Slovakia, Germany, Italy, Greece, Russia, Czech Republic, Croatia, Latvia, Austria, Moldova, Albania, Romania, Norway, Switzerland, Bosnia, Denmark, Bulgaria, United Kingdom, Armenia, Sweden, Slovenia, Spain, Estonia, United States, Ireland, China, Brazil, Chile, Turkey, Japan, Luxembourg, Portugal and Georgia COMBINED.

Why was it only in Poland the Germans found it necessary to introduce the death penalty for aiding Jew?

It is true the Blue police played a minor part but they were under Germans control.  Further they had German officers and the ranks were filled with many ethnic groups especially Ukrainians.  Amongst the Poles, Jewish historians estimate as many as half were double agents as they worked for the Polish resistance.

There were some pogroms in occupied Poland but there were much larger/more numerous ones in other countries.  The pogrom at Kaunas, Lithuania saw around 4,000 Jews murdered, in Rumania at Laşi at least 13,000 Jews and at Lviv maybe 5,000 Jews were murdered by Ukrainians.  Anyone of these pogroms resulted in more deaths than all the pogroms by Poles COMBINED.

Perhaps if you can explain this to me then maybe I would believe you but otherwise I think it is Dusan Kahan who needs to do some research and not listen to Nazi/Soviets lies which are repeated so many times that they now are accepted by some as the truth.  The Poles may not be perfect but their record as the above shows it is better than most.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always find it strange that the very minor role played by Poles can be portrayed as being major.</p>
<p>First the correction is regarding the running of the camps.  The Holocaust was planned by senior Nazi Germans at the Wannsee Conference without a single Pole being present.  Likewise it was Germans tried at Nuremberg not Poles.</p>
<p>The Poles didn’t work as guards in the death camps.  They were Germans, Austrians, Ukrainians and Latvians in the main. Poles were the largest group of victims in slave-labour camps and the second largest group in death camps such as Auschwitz.</p>
<p>Therefore the statement is misleading.  Any journalist using quotes of this type should make it clear this refers to German camps in occupied Poland.</p>
<p>As David Peleg, The Ambassador of Israel to Warsaw, Poland said: &#8220;We, being Jews and Israelis, with reject resolutely terminology such as &#8220;Polish concentration camps&#8221;. These prejudicial and erroneous phrases represent primarily testimony about ignorance and lack of understanding of fundamental historical truth. Every thinking man knows that it was the Nazis who selected Poland for central site for dreadful genocide of extermination of European Jews. On the Polish soil the Germans built terrifying camps where they systematically murdered 4.5 million Jews (including 3 million Polish Jews) and other nationalities including thousands of Poles.&#8221;</p>
<p>Second, to Dusan Kahan claim about Poles betraying Jews.  If this is correct then why Poland did not collaborate with Nazi Germany rather than fight them?  They could have done a deal the way Hungary, Italy, Finland, Bulgaria and Romania did.</p>
<p>Why could the Germans not find senior Poles willing to collaborate unlike in Slovakia, France, Norway and Denmark with puppet governments?</p>
<p>Why were no Polish Waffen-SS?  After all there were Spanish, Estonian, Finnish, Danish, Latvian, Croatian, Ukrainian, Albanian, Dutch, Belgian, Russian, Belarusian, Hungarian, and French Waffen-SS units. </p>
<p>Again the Poles didn’t round up Jews in the ghettos.  This was done by the Germans, with the support mostly of Ukrainians and Jewish collaborators. Instead Poles fought alongside the Jews during the Warsaw ghetto uprising. </p>
<p>Why did the Polish government want to bomb the concentration and death camps?  Remember it was the Americans and British vetoed the idea. </p>
<p>Why did the Polish government spread knowledge of atrocities committed against Jews when the American and British governments tried to suppress it? </p>
<p>Why do Poles make up the largest number of righteous (i.e. those who aided Jews)?  Poland have as many righteous as Belgium, Lithuania, Hungary, Belarus, Slovakia, Germany, Italy, Greece, Russia, Czech Republic, Croatia, Latvia, Austria, Moldova, Albania, Romania, Norway, Switzerland, Bosnia, Denmark, Bulgaria, United Kingdom, Armenia, Sweden, Slovenia, Spain, Estonia, United States, Ireland, China, Brazil, Chile, Turkey, Japan, Luxembourg, Portugal and Georgia COMBINED.</p>
<p>Why was it only in Poland the Germans found it necessary to introduce the death penalty for aiding Jew?</p>
<p>It is true the Blue police played a minor part but they were under Germans control.  Further they had German officers and the ranks were filled with many ethnic groups especially Ukrainians.  Amongst the Poles, Jewish historians estimate as many as half were double agents as they worked for the Polish resistance.</p>
<p>There were some pogroms in occupied Poland but there were much larger/more numerous ones in other countries.  The pogrom at Kaunas, Lithuania saw around 4,000 Jews murdered, in Rumania at Laşi at least 13,000 Jews and at Lviv maybe 5,000 Jews were murdered by Ukrainians.  Anyone of these pogroms resulted in more deaths than all the pogroms by Poles COMBINED.</p>
<p>Perhaps if you can explain this to me then maybe I would believe you but otherwise I think it is Dusan Kahan who needs to do some research and not listen to Nazi/Soviets lies which are repeated so many times that they now are accepted by some as the truth.  The Poles may not be perfect but their record as the above shows it is better than most.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Prein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick Prein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 18:48:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nobody need&#039;s to be pondering their roles in the &quot;Shoah&quot; so much anymore,unless they were themselves actively engaged in this terror.If one&#039;s nationality or predecessors were evil, one should not spend an inordinate time on self guilt or self hatred.Everyones deserves a chance to have self esteem and feel proud of their heritage.Perhaps you would call this pollyanish multiculturalism?Some would have certain groups forever castigated for horrendous acts of the past.This too, is prejudice and stereotyping, without more nuance and context history is merely me against you, and the survival of the fittest.The &quot;Holocaust&quot; is not a &quot;get out of jail card&quot; to be applied to all occasions.Yes, indeed many Poles were guilty of oppression to the Jews and Hungarians and Serbs too.So don&#039;t be so self righteous.None of us are perfect. or descend from perfect people.The Shoah was a horendous catastrophe, and all the perpetrators should be punished, but not all of the survivors to the last generations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nobody need&#8217;s to be pondering their roles in the &#8220;Shoah&#8221; so much anymore,unless they were themselves actively engaged in this terror.If one&#8217;s nationality or predecessors were evil, one should not spend an inordinate time on self guilt or self hatred.Everyones deserves a chance to have self esteem and feel proud of their heritage.Perhaps you would call this pollyanish multiculturalism?Some would have certain groups forever castigated for horrendous acts of the past.This too, is prejudice and stereotyping, without more nuance and context history is merely me against you, and the survival of the fittest.The &#8220;Holocaust&#8221; is not a &#8220;get out of jail card&#8221; to be applied to all occasions.Yes, indeed many Poles were guilty of oppression to the Jews and Hungarians and Serbs too.So don&#8217;t be so self righteous.None of us are perfect. or descend from perfect people.The Shoah was a horendous catastrophe, and all the perpetrators should be punished, but not all of the survivors to the last generations.</p>
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		<title>By: dusan kahan</title>
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		<dc:creator>dusan kahan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Poles are so touchy on this subject yet there&#039;s no denying that when it comes to betraying and murder of their Jewish neighbors they were willing helpers of the Nazis. Instead of protesting such ridiculous minor mishaps they should start to ponder on their role in the realities of the Shoah.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poles are so touchy on this subject yet there&#8217;s no denying that when it comes to betraying and murder of their Jewish neighbors they were willing helpers of the Nazis. Instead of protesting such ridiculous minor mishaps they should start to ponder on their role in the realities of the Shoah.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie Subrin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julie Subrin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 15:11:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim, the statement you object to is a quotation from the novel Brostoff is discussing.  You&#039;ll have to take it up with the novelist himself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim, the statement you object to is a quotation from the novel Brostoff is discussing.  You&#8217;ll have to take it up with the novelist himself.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Przedzienkowski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Przedzienkowski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 14:51:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The following comment &#039;gas me in your Polish camp&#039;  is not funny at all and needs to be corrected. Seems you can&#039;t even get the joke correct. The Germans Nazis established the camps on occupied Polish soil.  They a were not Polish.  At least get history correct then ridicule it.  Please post a correction to this disgusting remark.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The following comment &#8216;gas me in your Polish camp&#8217;  is not funny at all and needs to be corrected. Seems you can&#8217;t even get the joke correct. The Germans Nazis established the camps on occupied Polish soil.  They a were not Polish.  At least get history correct then ridicule it.  Please post a correction to this disgusting remark.</p>
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