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Greased, Frightening

John Travolta’s massages, ‘homosexual Jewish men’ in Hollywood, and the true nature of prejudice

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John Travolta at a press conference on April 12, 2011, in New York City. (Andrew H. Walker/Getty Images for Fiore Films)

Well, folks, it’s been a big week in gay news. On the good side, President Barack Obama came out in support of same-sex marriage and Anjelica Huston sang on Smash. On the other, the press has been all abuzz over the lawsuit recently slapped on John Travolta by a masseur claiming the star attempted to coerce him into unwanted sexual acts during a session at the Beverly Hills Hotel. Two steps forward, one step back. That’s progress, I guess.

Of all the tabloid press coverage on Massage-gate, there are two details that, er, popped up at me. One is the employment of positively J.K. Rowling-esque adjectives regarding the area in question: “solid eight inches … springy” making it sound like Hollywood’s second-most famous Scientologist purchased his, ahem, wand straight from Mr. Ollivander’s. (It chooses the wizard, you know.) The second is the still-unnamed masseur’s assertion of how Travolta explained how he learned to Stop Worrying and Love Transactional Same-Sex Liaisons: By accepting that Hollywood is controlled by “homosexual Jewish men” who expect sexual favors in return for career-related ones.

It may surprise you (although probably not) to hear that I have no quarrel with the airing of the trope that Jews are prominent, even dominant, in the movie industry. The reason for this is that it’s true, and saying it aloud no more makes John Travolta a Jew-hater than asserting that there are a lot of, say, African-American hip-hop artists makes one a racist. It’s not anti-Semitic to make a statement of fact; it’s anti-Semitic to imply that there’s something wrong with it. The real question raised by this statement is the linking of “homosexual,” a descriptor that is relevant to the particulars of the accusation at hand, with “Jewish,” which is not. What, indeed, does one thing have to do with the other? And what does the almost unconscious linking of the two—whether by Travolta or merely by the recollection or fabrication of his anonymous plaintiff—tell us about the nature of prejudice itself?

Intolerance, whatever its object, is at heart a form of conspiracy theory. Xenophobia, homophobia, racism are all essentially predicated on the idea that the members of the despised group are plotting to take something away from the bigot: Immigrants have come to steal jobs and resources, undeserving inner-city blacks are siphoning away your hard-earned tax dollars, gay people are scheming to undermine society by demanding the right to contribute billions of dollars to the wedding-industrial complex and reminding you how dreadfully uneventful your own sex life is.

Anti-Semitism, by virtue of its great age and persistence, is in many ways the ur-conspiracy theory, the paranoia on which all others are founded. The image of the Jew as a nefarious operator, running everything behind-the-scenes—the hideous-octopus-tentacles-around-the-world image emblazoned on so many of our still-developing brains—has been around for so long, we even perpetuate it ourselves, making revealing half-jokes about Steven Spielberg, David Axelrod, and Lloyd Blankfein. All squares are rectangles, but not all rectangles are squares. Not all facial tissues are Kleenex, but we call them that nevertheless. To a certain kind of mind, all conspirators are Jews, whether they’re actually Jewish or not. It’s perhaps not quite what Lenny Bruce had in mind (conspiracy theory is goyish, world domination is Jewish), but that doesn’t mean it’s not flattering in a perverse way; as Oscar Wilde said, the only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about. Imagine how disappointed we’d be if they ever stopped accusing us of things we didn’t do. We’d just be some other vaguely Mediterranean-looking ethnic group, with no more hold over the public imagination than the Italians, or—God forbid—the Greeks.

But back to Travolta: Seen through this lens, it makes perfect sense why the Staying Alive star might articulate what he did the way he (allegedly) did: He posits a homosexual conspiracy to try to convince himself that he’s not one (manipulated, sure, but that’s what they do) and then tacks on the Jewish part to prove how it’s extra sneaky—and impossible to resist.

And yet, I can’t help feeling sorry for him in a way I never do for the Gibsons and Gallianos and Rick Sanchezes of the world. If true, it makes for a pretty sad picture to think of one of the biggest, most universally loved movie stars on the planet lying all alone in a hotel suite (and given his well-documented weight fluctuations, the empty chocolate cake wrappers lying on the floor make a particularly poignant touch—I mean, who hasn’t been there?) lunging at a masseur’s white-jeaned crotch (yes, in my head, he’s wearing white jeans) and then blaming a David Geffen-led cabal for his actions when he gets shut down. If every prejudice is the rationalization of paranoia, paranoia is the rationalization of insecurity, and as the prophet(ess) RuPaul (for whom I definitely intend to leave out a custom Absolut vodka cocktail at my next Seder) likes to say: If you can’t love yourself, how the hell you gonna love somebody else? Internalized homophobia and internalized anti-Semitism are just two sides of the same highly polished and wisely invested coin.

With a single (for the third time, alleged) prejudicial statement, John Travolta has neatly subverted the old maxim about paranoia, and in doing so, the essential emptiness behind prejudice itself. It’s not that they aren’t out to get you. It’s just that “they” is usually “you.”

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I’m not going to Touch this one.

How can you build a critique on a statement that one person says another person made? This is meaningless. Not worth the cyberspace it occupies.

John Travolta might be gay! He might, if we credulously believe every word some money-grabbing masseur says about him, may have even said one sentence about Jewish people in Hollywood that is false and anti-Semitic. (That’s a big if, by the way. One dubious sentence, from a dubious source. Think about it. Not exactly compelling.)

But we’re all missing the real story: our nation’s tabloid, news and water cooler gossip reaction to this story. Our own idle chit chat and gossip:

I doubt that John Travolta really said anything that this money-grabbing idiot claims he said. That being said, maybe Travolta really is gay – and maybe he did say that. Yet the discussion should be this:

Who the hell cares?

I saw this issue discussed on Tablet magazine, a Jewish website. Yet should Jews, or anyone, even listen to any of this lashon ha’ra, or motzi shem ra? Lashon ha’ra is negative gossip (that is true) while motzi shem ra is simply malicious lies. Both are prohibited by halakhah (The Jewish way of life, loosely translated as “Jewish law”) 

People have a right to privacy, whether they are violating a mitzvah/commandment (any kind – of action, or of words) or not. 

That goes for gay people and straight people. Those who are Shomer Shabbat, and those who are not. Those who give to the poor and needy, and those who do not. Those who keep the laws of kashrut (keeping kosher) and those who do not.

Here’s what the religious response should be to this particular story:

Stop reading those articles, and stop writing about them. It is just some other man’s personal life. If we find ourselves talking about this…then it’s just a sign that we need to get our own lives 

anabeth says:

This a news article?

Allen Hertz says:

Within the broader context of human-rights methodologies, Anti-Semitism is just a particular brand of “discrimination,” i.e. discrimination against Jews and against those things that are invariably, inextricably and obviously linked to Jews — like Judaism, the Jewish People and Israel. Too bad that even most Jews do not understand this key point.  Moreover, Jews have heard so much about the Holocaust that somehow they (and so many others too) have come to think wrongly that there can be no real Anti-Semitism this side of the concentration camp gates. However, who would dare to suggest that there can be no real discrimination against Black Americans this side of the abolition of slavery? And with crackpots like John Travolta in mind, let’s try to look at these matters positively by affirming that every group is “owed” fairness and sound social science. And, with respect to historically-victimized populations like Jews and Black Americans, there is clearly a “super-added” requirement to be fair and practice sound social science, exactly to deal with the enhanced likelihood of further targeting and victimization. Modern human-rights methodologies suggest that there really ought to be some caution in addressing the delicate topic of Jews, Judaism, the Jewish People and Israel — just as with regard to taking on sensitive issues relating to Black Americans. It is high time to recall that there cannot be one set of human-rights methodologies for some groups that Jews and others are excused from applying when it comes to Jewish issues. In terms of normal human-rights methodologies, there is absolutely no licence that permits discrimination against Jews, no matter what the ideological rationale. Despite a “a noble cause,” discrimination remains a shameful human-rights violation, and discrimination against Jews remains anti-Semitism, though not in every case as severe as that of Adolf Hitler or Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. See “When Does Criticizing Israel Become Anti-Semitic” at http://www.allenzhertz.com

Lauren Deutsch says:

I think you mean “uber” (with an umlaut) conspiracy. When they say it’s not about sex, it’s always about sex. When they say it’s not about anti-Semitism, it’s always …

Oudtshoorn says:

Exactly.   Who the hell cares?   After living with almost-daily anti-Semitism for almost 70 years, nothing comes as unexpected.    And I am still trying to persuade myself that I don’t care.   (But I do and, try as I may, anti-Semitism always comes as a shock.)   I wish, though, that we would try to avoid giving someone as trivial as John Travolta our time and space.   Can we not just ignore people like him and Mel, and concentrate instead on the Arabs who have sworn to kill every one of us?    

Oudtshoorn says:

Good thinking, James Smith.   I should’ve said the same.

What seems to be relevant about Travolta’s alleged connection between “Jewish” and “gay” in his assertion that exchanging sex for career advancement is business as usual in Hollywood is precisely his linkage of the two via financial transaction. To say that Jews are prominent in Hollywood isn’t anti-Semitic, and to suggest that gays are prominent Hollywood isn’t homophobic. But to say that gay Jews habitually procure sex via money, power, and behind-the-scenes quid pro quo gets at the heart of why gay people and Jews have always been the target of conspiracy theories: gays and Jews

I ask myself…self if a man never admitted publicly that he had an autistic son then how can he admit to anything else.  I always thought John Travolta was strange and very conservative in his thinking.  He just cant think outside the box for anything!

gwhepner says:

PREJUDICE, PARANOIA
AND NARCISSIM

 

 

If paranoia can be rationalized

by means of prejudice, if follows narc-

issism has to be an idealized

agenda for a person who’s an arse.

Gershon Hepner

gwhepner@yahoo.com

gwhepner says:

PREJUDICE, PARANOIA
AND NARCISSIM

 

 

If paranoia can be rationalized

by means of prejudice, if follows narc-

issism has to be an idealized

agenda for a person who’s an arse.

gwhepner says:

Bravissima and gut gezugt, Lauren. I presume some of your best friends must be gay!

martyj says:

This is quite interesting in the sense that movie giants, not speaking of the performers, have always been a group that have been known for their relationships with the young starlets. Whether true or not, these were non titled, relative to Religious Persuasion!

What is new, of late, is to specify a certain group to be representative of certain failings that may be questionable, relative to their religious faith. Mr. Travolta’s assertion, reminds me of the time when all Jews were put into money grabber category, as well as their cheapness! This of course was pure nonsense, however it persists!

We can excuse the less informed for such assertions, however his remarks were uncalled for and an example of immaturity! He is to be pitied, rather than scorned!

John Travolta is clearly not very intelligent.  Whether he is gay or not is really none of my business, or yours actually.  History has proven many people have concocted schemes against him and his family to make money in a most disgusting way.  Do y’all remember the death of his son? 

Personally I think he is a fool with too much air time, but I have enjoyed some of his movies like phenomenon and others.  This article says nothing, does nothing, just casts aspersions on an actor.  Didn’t Ronald Reagan prove that most actors are stupid selfish and overly privileged bullies who think they are better then the rest… like republicans?  Honestly, who  cares what John Travolta does in his life.  He has not really been known as a hater,  like Mel Gibson and the rest of those insidious ultra nazi catholic sect members.

looks like most people agree with me.

Don’t forget to add into the mix Travolta’s member ship in the Church of Scientology. Isn’t the whole point of belonging to it is to ruthlessly access the highest reaches of one’s profession? So, he did it and it worked!

This is a good point, and what little I know about Scientology seems to indicate that it presents itself as a kind of conspiracy theory–or at least that it harbors a lot of conspiratorial notions about modern psychology, psychoanalysis, and other aspects of “the Jewish science”?! So the nuts maybe don’t fall so far from the tree?

Alissa Haroush says:

Oh John…………

corey949 says:

I am surprised that no one has commented on the wild talent of Ms. Rachel — the smartest, most stylish, most trenchant, not to mention funniest of the Tablet scribes. In elegant, fearless prose, she tackles complex issues with the grace of a high-wire artist. I confess that I’m way too old for such fanboy behavior, but I’ll gladly risk embarrassment in the service of giving praise where it is due. Brava, Rachel.

Ed Kendrick says:

John Travolta, an accomplished actor who is qualified to fly four-engine passenger jets is “clearly not very intelligent”?  Easy for you, William, to say.
Hollywood Jews make movies about the Mafia that stereotype Italians as the organized crime tribe while avoiding the real history which reveals Jews have been among the most notorious of the mob bosses.

Stereotypes of radical muslims and mis-translations of what Ahmadinejad really says–promoted by Hollywood and the jewish-dominated mass media are OK, while anything even construed to be critical of Jews is a high crime.

When there aren’t enough radical muslims to parade in the public eye, then get a few Jews like Adam Gadahn and Joseph Cohen to represent what muslims are really about.
Hollywood and jewish-dominated mass media hold the world in a spell of narratives  and stereotypes with little regard for what is so–unless it (truth about what is so) serves their purposes.  All this stereotyping while screaming “anti-semitism!”

Read Gilad Atzmon’s THE WANDERING WHO–good therapy for those who are unwilling to consider their own depravity and incapacity for penitence.

Think outside the Jewish box.

rocky2345 says:

Why is this story on  a Jewish web site? It belongs in the supermarket tabloids, where one can also read about the drinking problems of Camilla, Duchess of Cornwall and soon to be ex-wife of Prince Charles.

Are there no Jewish issues more important than the sex lives of some Jewish studio executives? What about the growing poverty in Jewish communities such as New Square and Kiryas Joel? What about the thousands of Jewish youngsters who are leaving school each year as functional illiterates? Maybe someone involved in Jewish education could write about the fact that “No child left behind” is ignoring many Jewish schools.

Stop looking for antisemitism under every bed when there are thousands of Jewish youngsters who are not being taught algebra.    

spostol says:

May I reiterate Robert Kaiser’s remark, earlier –
“Stop reading those articles, and stop writing about them. It is just some other man’s personal life. If we find ourselves talking about this…then it’s just a sign that we need to get our own lives …”

Thing that bugs me is the following:

1. Many if not most prominent people in the movie industry are Jewish–the author admits as much. It’s an ethnic industry like diners on Long Island.

2. Many prominent people in the movie industry are gay. This is also well-known; the arts have long been among the less homophobic sectors of society.

3. Powerful people often abuse their power. The movie industry is not known for its ethics, though it doesn’t do as much environmental damage as the oil or coal industries, or as much personal damage as the gambling industry or alcohol or tobacco industries.
 
The ‘casting couch’ where heterosexual movie producers of all ethnicities and religions exploit their female stars is well known. While I’m not with the Christian right in believing gays are morally inferior, I don’t think they’re morally superior either.

So…while we don’t even know if Travolta actually said this, it could still be true.

Hershl says:

John Travolta is so unabashedly running after other men and has been for years that none of this is news.

As a committed Scientologist he also is a believer that being gay is a sickness that must be cured. For a certain sum of money he can go through lots of Scientology mumbo jumbo to be rid of this malady.

In the meantime, he has been making a total fool of himself lunging after men in very public, non-gay haunts.

A very sick man who is being protected by his cabal of Scientologists.

andrea kaden says:

Guess you didn’t understand the writer’s point.

phill2012 says:

a  pseudo-intellectual analysis by Rachel S.   She takes issue with the alleged statement by Travolta that Hollywood is dominated by Jewish fags, I  mean gays.  Well, John might be right; gays certainly have the sympathy vote of a lot of stupid jews who are assimilated kneejerk democrats who know zero about what the Torah says and forbids. As to whether John T. is gay and whether his Scientology beliefs are nutty or not, I don’t care.  What I do care about is IF Jewish gays do dominate Hollywood that’s a problem which will sooner or later create a backlash of serious antisemitism– typified already by one of the talkbackers here, ed kendrick, who takes his inspiration from the screed of gilad atzmon, the ex-jew, ex-israeli m’shumad in the UK– a mad dog apostate and traitor who, in a perfect world,  would be shot on sight. 

srivkalevy says:

 I’m impressed with your call to maturity. thanks for stability.

Matt & Trey are going to have a freakin’ field day with this one. Travolta hiding in a closet with Tom Cruise…. Oh, the possibilities.

rocky2345 says:

 I used to think the problem was Jewish studio bosses divorcing their Jewish wives and marrying gorgeous shiksas or Jewish actors and actresses marrying out.
 
If you are worried about antisemitism, worry about all the Hasidic Jews leaving school with a substandard secular education. So what do you do if all you are qualified for is a minimum wage job? Father lots of children and apply for food stamps, Medicaid and Section 8 housing vouchers. As the Good Book says, “Be fruitful and multiply”.  But you are OK for now. Most goyim have never heard of New Square or Kiryas Joel, probably the #1 and #2 poorest communities in the country as measured by the percentage of residents below the poverty line. Most goyim still think poor = black or Hispanic and most goyim don’t read census data or the New York Times.

stirzpots says:

Totally agree, Corey. She’s the best. Read her even when the topic is of no interest. 

 brilliant as always always allen.

 100% on the money. we should tend to our own lives.

Fuck you William. You are nothing more than a piece of self propelled garbage compared to Ronald Reagan…..you asshole I wish you a long and painful death

Travolta’s proclivities for homosexual sex is very old ‘news.’ Like everybody, he brought his sexual preferences with him when he first hit it big some 40 years ago. He’s got the Scientologists providing cover for him with member ‘wives’ as they do for a few other male personalities who prefer to stay in the closet. Hollywood business as usual.

How sad as another icon/sex symbol bites the dust, whether allegations are true or not. Just as a woman of Islam must wear the Burka because a male believer in Muhammad can’t keep his penis in his pants, thus Travolta cannot defend himself without impugning homosexuality and Jews in one breath. If he isn’t, that’s OK; if he is, well that’s Ok and he should own up to it, but…blaming the powerful Jews of Hollywood…come on!!! Travolta no longer has to worry about losing weight and staying in shape! He has shrivelled in my estimation to less than prune, maybe even a raisen, and without reason. No matter what he really is, he is essentially nothing!

No, you can’t ignore them. The Mels and the Johns have power because they engage a wide populace; they make movies, they garner attention, they have influence. Propaganda is all and those radical Islamists who have sworn to annihilate Israel and concur the Western World know the value of using it and that repeating a lie often enough very often converts it to an accepted truth. Hitler solidified this in his book and that book is as much a bible for them as the Kuran is. Monsters don’t go  away just because you put your head under the covers.

Travolta aside, the piece had some excellent insights into Anti-Semitism. Good piece, TY Rachel!

Of course I pay close attention to Hollywood “gossip.”

As a very old-school yid, I am, necessarily, by reflex, a Freudian, and therefore pay close attention to Hollywood “gossip” because Hollywood “gossip” is very obviously the American commonweal’s free association.

Since I can in no way influence or direct this particular analysand’s free association — the traditional pitfalls, such as transference and countertransference, are, face facts, impossible in this situation — the American commonweal’s spontaneous utterances are especially instructive.

In a time of heightened social, political, and economic, uncertainty, it’s basically text-book that a swarthy Mediterranean-type should “accidentally” arrange an opportunity so as to give public voice to various inchoate anxieties having to do with Jews, homosexuality, and the full-range of traditional, and exegetical, Freudian symbology. (Please see: Jacques Lacan, “On the Signification of the Phallus.”)

Were I able to direct this free association to its most salient disclosures, however, I would gently guide the analysand back to the “empty chocolate-cake wrappers.”

In Hollywood, it’s possible to be a “closeted” homosexual.

In Hollywood, it’s impossible to be a “closeted” fat person.

The analysand very much wants to talk about those “empty chocolate-cake wrappers,” and billboards this need by snowing it with a lot of “shocking” sexual disclosure.

Let’s pause, here.

Let’s go back to those “empty chocolate-cake wrappers.”

Could we, please, hear a litte more about them?

 

Oudtshoorn says:

Thank you, Leona Rund Zions.   You are right, I know.   None of it, not Mels, Johns or Islamists can be ignored.   I am simply so tired, and so utterly sick of 70 years of hearing lies about us, that often I say stupid, regrettable things.   Thank you for replying and making sense.

Oudtshoorn says:

Is this true, about Jewish children leaving school as “functional illiterates”?   I am horrified.  Please tell more?   Where, for example, is New Square?   And tell me about poverty (in all senses) within Jewish education?   I admit total ignorance, and have always imagined all of us to have had the privilege of a sound, broad education.   Thank you.

Oudtshoorn says:

I don’t believe we have mis-translated Ahmadinejad’s words.    The alternative translations being offered here and there remind me of euphemisms used by Hitler and his henchmen – you know, “special treatment” instead of “gassing to death.”   “Punishment” instead of “pushing 30 people into a locked cell until they starve to death.”   And, of course, “resettlement” instead of “murder.”   No.   I read and heard Ahmadinejad’s words about the Muslims who will have to die when he nukes Israel, and his words that losing 6 million or so Islamists won’t matter as long as he can kill 6 million Jews.   The mis-translations are deliberate Nazi-type euphemisms.

Oudtshoorn says:

Neatly put, Leona Rund Zions.

Oudtshoorn says:

“…sooner or later created a backlash of serious anti-Semitism”???   Sooner or later?   Look around you, open your eyes:   It’s here.   Everywhere.   Every day.   Around the corner.   Up the street.   “Sooner or later”, my eye.   

rocky2345 says:

You can read more about functional illiteracy among Hasidic Jews at Chaim Levin’s posts at Huffington Post. By his own admission, he left his Hasidic school with a secular education at the Grade 3 level. Some Hasidic schools are better than others. They emphasize religious education to the virtual exclusion of secular studies at many of the schools. Their curriculum is not monitored by the New York State Department of Education under a religious exemption related to the Freedom of Religion clause of the US constitution. I actually called the Department of Education in Albany to double check this.

New Square, NY and Kiryas Joel, NY are Hasidic villages north of New York City. You can check their poverty rates by Googling the name of the town followed by poverty statistics. Both villages have large numbers of poor children, whose parents get food stamps,  Section 8 housing vouchers and Medicaid. Their poverty statistics are worse than East St. Louis, IL, a mostly black community. Or maybe the Hasidic parents are just better at earning money in the cash economy.

High poverty also exists in other communities where Hasidics make up a significant part of the population; e.g. Lakewood, NJ and Monsey, NY. I have not been able to find separate data for the Brooklyn neighborhoods of Crown Heights, Williamsburg and Boro Park, but I suspect the same problems exist in these neighborhoods.

Interesting article. Of course, the real question remains: did John say or do any of the things based on the allegations? The first accuser has already changed his story, very suspect, and the fact that none of the 3 (current number) made these complaints before now is in itself suspect. I hope none of this is true, but I don’t know what is. Neither do any of us. Something to keep in mind. 

molarman says:

Jesus, maybe there are a lot of Jewish Homosexuals in Hollywood.  Or California.  Has any body counted?  Wasn’t there a high profile Jewish politician named Milk a few years ago?   Maybe there is more milk than you think.

Bottom line….Who the hell cares.  Did you know that there are prostitutes in Israel?
Can you believe it?  In the holy land!
All Bullshit, typical American reporting.  The USA is falling apart, economy is in the gutter, they owe Trillions to China, housing is a losing battle and this rag of a newspaper want’s us to read about Travolta’s statements.  

emunadate says:

No one cares about John Travolta’s sexual preferences except for maybe his wife. But, we do care is he makes anti-semitic remarks. Whenever I read something like this one thing comes to mind…
http://emunadate.blogspot.com/2012/04/oprah-and-elie-weisel-at-auschwitz-part.html

You are right, LRZ.  There have been rumors about Travolta’s homosexuality for decades.  If he is too afraid to come out, that should be his business, BUT when he blames it on “THE JEWS,” it moves from his private sphere to a public forum.  His reasoning should not fool anyone with two brain cells clicking together.  It is one thing to be approached for sexual favors and it is another thing entirely to approach someone else for sexual favors. Do not do to others what you dislike having done to you.  If you feel oppressed in the first case, you should not be the oppressor in the second.  If he is really NOT gay, why would he be propositioning men?  And, if he did give in and allow himself to be sexually used to get a role, that would not “turn” him gay if he were really straight and would not send him out propositioning men whom he employeed.  Whether or not he is gay probably does not matter for his career anymore, although if he had the guts to serve as a gay role model, he might have saved some lives, but what does matter is that we have another person blaming ”THE JEWS”  for things he does not like about himself. In this aspect, his rant is no different than any other anti-Semite’s.  The reason to discuss this is as old as the admonition, “Tzedak, Tzedak Tirdof.”

DQUser says:

Gosh Rachel, you sure worked a lot of your paranoia into this article.  

Jeffiekins says:

 Um, have you ever SEEN Glee?

But, seriously, there ARE a lot of gay Jewish men hanging around the top of the Hollywood pyramid.

So?

As the author of this article (remember it?) mentions: stating a fact  probably isn’t anything-ist.  There was no statement that there was anything wrong with there being a lot of Jewish gay guys at or near the top of Hollywood, just a claim that their behavior isn’t so different from the straight guys (past and present) in that same place.

Sheesh! 

Mensches and scumbags come in all flavors.  There are straight mensches (e.g., Ron Howard) and gay ones (e.g., Todd Haynes) making movies today, no matter how outnumbered they may be by the scumbags.  BTW, I hope Mr. Haynes doesn’t mind my mentioning that he’s Jewish — I couldn’t think of any non-Jewish examples of gay mensch making movies, though I imagine there are probably some.

vladdrakul says:

 There are ‘monsters’ as you call them everywhere and some of them are Jews. Most of course are not but anyone who is NOT a racist will understand that anyone who calls a whole people ‘monsters’ , uncivilised, inferior, animals etc are themselves the monsters.
  I see good Jews and bad; good Arabs and bad. You just like all bigots before you only see ‘evil Arabs’ You are not only prejudiced and thus anti.human but as is so often the truth you are ignorant. Worse still there are literally millions of people out there like you.
   The German nation committed the worst crimes in history but the German people are not the worst people in the world nor are Jews the best. It’s al BS! Every individual person is respomsibler for what they do and say and think. There is wher ethe judgement needs to be. You need to take a long hard look in the mirror but I won’t be holding my breathe.
  And Propaganda: gee it’s everywhere and every nation and group is guilty of it.

Whats the point if is Gay?

You wrote many words in your commentary, but the question remains:

Are the Jewish males dominant in Hollywood largely homosexual?

My theory is that homosexual males strongly identify with each other, and given that identification, they will predictably hire and promote each other when given the opportunity.

Needless to say, with the passage of time the leadership of an industry can become mostly homosexual.

There are many art organizations who’s leadership is comprised mostly of  non-Jewish homosexual  males.  I emphasize, non-Jewish. If you are not a homosexual, you will not be treated equitably in those organizations.

Homosexual males, regardless of their ethnicity, abhor ultra orthodox Jews because they know homosexuality is severely condemned in that community.

My point is:

This is not a Jewish issue.

Rather, it’s an issue of homosexuals [predictably] favoring their fellow homosexuals over heterosexuals, unless the heterosexual in question can make money for them.

Remember:
Homosexuals don’t favor heterosexual Jews, and the vast majority of Jews are heterosexual.

Your reasoning is impeccable.

As far as your statements go, they can’t be rationally refuted.

leonardo777 says:

Will someone tell Ms. Rachel’s sugar-daddy, corey949 to stop BS about how great she is? She has the job.

corey949 says:

Wow, it only took you two weeks to come up with such a witty riposte? Awesome.

dirtyvodkaman says:

The jews are disgusting.

Oudtshoorn says:

Thank you very much, rocky2345.   I am trying to assimilate and internalize my new, astonishing knowledge.   Am more than dismayed.

Question: No one coerced JT re: Massuer. So what does that have to do with Jews, Hollywood, or any coercion there–if it’s there?  How is that a defense?
Sounds like Class A projection, and not a paper-towel that holds water.  Did I miss s/t?

Well written, especially enjoyed ”
All squares are rectangles, but not all rectangles are squares. Not all facial tissues are Kleenex, but we call them that nevertheless.”

What the hell does this filth have to do with Jewish issues?

What the hell does this filth have to do with Jewish issues?

J Vallon says:

the author obviously hides the talmud from her goy friends

J Vallon says:

 the arabs? they are weak and kill for effect. the jews are the enemy of christian lands. just think bolshevism

J Vallon says:

 jews are my enemy. im not an arab or a palestinian christian. i just know my peoples history

Waelus says:

o.k, Jews have nothing to do with all problems we might think they do;we believe in constructive criticism! Good! Then enlighten me;Antisemitism made of two words anti=against or opposing, Semite= belongs to Sem or Shem son of Noah, well, that is de facto, but don’t you know that Arabs and Ethiopians are as well Semites. How come Israelis look rather Caucasians blonde and blue-eyed more clearly: Khazars descendants. This is not the issue, please name any movie which criticized or less to say at least has show some Jew as not a bad person but even some one does some thing wrong, Hell Nooo! But look dozens and dozens of movies not only criticize Muslims (Jack Shahan, The Black Sunday, ) and Christians (
Perfume: The Story of a Murderer
was a whole disgusting deride against the Pope when he has been portrayed prostrates because of perfume effect?).
I don’t blame the Jews nor do I generalize; but dear ones: there are some people doing crises on you behalf

ryan says:

He’s abosolutely gay. One of my closest friends whom I grew up with was an assitant director on one of his files 20 years ago and he QUIT because he couldn’t not thwart this nasty dudes advances. He preys on people and uses his fame and money to do it.

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who can teach me to speak like cary grant.
for advertising jewish voice trainer or any body who can give me the edge over the
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just an inquiry you may have some contacts
in London .
god bless you Jason.

The site bends of forward and backward for the jewish media paymasters. Hey, if they’re gay jews, they’re gay jews. Got news…no one is surprised one bit. You’re not smooth and tricky, you’re just used and sticky.

Th site bends of forward and backward for the jewish media paymasters. Hey, if they’re gay jews, they’re gay jews. Got news…no one is surprised one bit. You’re not smooth and tricky, you’re just used and sticky. The “conspiracy theory” tank is dry. ahahhaha Everyone knows who the liars are now. Your bosses are self destructing. The psychopaths of the world. Voltaire said, “I WOULDN’T BE SURPRISED IF THEY BECAME DEADLY TO HUMANITY AS A WHOLE.”

Ron Rayner says:

Well, just slap that boy’s hands. Why should any non-Jew give a flea’s fuck about Jews ,Homosexuals or any other groups activity.As long as there is free choice and unsupervised radio listening [ Nazi monitoring ]. Travolta has a right to his delusions. Jews do support Jews, Gays do support Gays and tend to ignore the abilities of those outside their respective groups, so what. I rarely support or do business with either, unless there is genuine merit in their product.

lol silly jews says:

Nothing against homosexuality, but its quite clear jews run hollywood and have been promoting a heavily gay agenda. I can understand the pros and cons of such behaviors. & quite frankly, anyone who tells the jews to shove their torah/koran up their ass is a good soul in my book.

David says:

What if every executive Travolta had to blow happened to be Jewish?

Sa'ar says:

John is only exposing what those people usually do in the industry. He probably thought that he too could exercise those “powers” only to be rejected (if the allegation is true). Plus, I do not know if the descendants of Jacob’s brother infiltrated the white race or the other way around to claim that “Shemitic” title but, both are not part of the true chosen group.

Sa'ar says:

John is only exposing what those people usually do in the industry. He probably thought that he too could exercise those “powers only to be rejected (if the allegation is true). Plus, I do not know if the descendants of Jacob’s brother infiltrated the white race or the other way around to claim that “Shemitic” title but, both are not part of the true chosen group.

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