This week on Unorthodox, we’ve got food on the brain.

Our first guest is Kerry Brodie, founder of Emma’s Torch, a cafe in Brooklyn that employs and trains refugees and political-asylum seekers. She tells us about her unlikely transition from government work to culinary school, what she learned about refugees by working alongside them in the kitchen, and why she believes food is such a powerful uniting force.

Our second guest is Lily Diamond, the Maui-born blogger behind Kale and Caramel, and the author of a brand new cookbook by the same name. She tells us about fleeing her laid-back Hawaiian high school for Yale, accidentally becoming a food blogger, and how food and cooking helped her grieve her mother’s death. (Enter the draw to win a copy of her book here!)

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