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For a kid-friendly Passover, try rounding out the seder plate with some off-menu additions

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From a kid’s perspective, the items on the seder plate are, to use a technical term, yucky. Since part of the point of Passover is engaging kids in the story of the Exodus, let’s imagine a seder plate that would retain the symbolism of the original while being far less puketastic.

To refresh your memory: The traditional items on a seder plate are charoset, a fruit-and-nut paste; karpas, a vegetable to dip in salt water; maror, bitter herbs—usually horseradish and/or hazeret, romaine lettuce, or other bitter greens; z’roa, a roasted shank bone or chicken neck; and beitzah, a hard-boiled egg. Whether your child is wise, evil, simple, or unable to ask questions, he or she is sure to appreciate a seder-plate reboot. (Seriously: As a seder game, you might ask your guests what other items could stand in for the familiar items on the seder plate. What, besides an orange, might one wish to add? What modern items could replace the traditional ones? What specific substitutions might be resonant for your particular guests?)

On to our plate:
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A picture of a pig on a Seder plate? I think not. Overall, an interesting idea but specifically, some of the items are hardly appropriate. I suggest going back to the commentaries on the Haggadah and reading why we do what we do and how the rituals were determined. There is nothing wrong with making the Seder interesting and thought provoking (that was the idea in the first place) but these suggestions are ridiculous.

This is a disgusting example of bad parenting. Leon is correct, and his advice is spot on. Become a storyteller and make the exodus, and the events leading up to it, come alive with an animated enthusiastic discussion, at their level of course. What will you tell us next, that Chanukkah will be better if we use a menorah with little trees instead of candles? The birth of Judiasm is a story of astounding repercussions for all mankind. Let’s not belittle it with trash like this. anyway, that’s my opinion.

David II says:

While I agree with Leon and David that the idea went a bit too far (notably the pig, yikes, lets no defile the Seder plate), I think that if it were not taken so literally, that it could be very fun. And of course the story of Exodus itself is already fascinating to children. So…….we could have one Seder plate on the parents table and then one on the children’s table that could be slightly embellished!!!!

Happy Passover!!!

I think this is a great and light-hearted way to look at Passover. The pig photo isn’t a direct reference to a pig, if you actually READ the annotation, it’s referring to Charlotte’s Web & the essence of the story. Obviously this is not a parenting guide, it’s just for kicks, so LIGHTEN UP!

Lizzie says:

Obviously every parent who reads this will rush out to obtain each of these items in order to modernize the Seder plate, such is the awesome power of Marjorie!

I think it’s a great way to talk with kids about what the plate means.

Leon and David, your comments are a perfect example of all that is wrong with Jewish parenting. Do you even have kids? I do, and I think Marjorie has it spot on. Letting kids find things that are relatable to their lives is the only way to get them excited and engaged. Ask your child, how they would represent how they would feel if they were enslaved? I guarantee they won’t suggest putting horseradish on a plate.

Pedro says:

Oh my goodness! Thank God I made it to Lizzie and jsd’s posts! I might otherwise have thought that Dr. Seuss had come back from the dead and created the Grinch that Stole Passover!
The tannaim (the rabbis whose teachings are included in the Mishnah) were quite clear — one of the goals of the Seder is to provoke interest in the content so that children (and adults!) will learn and remember the story of our redemption. Any symbols within the bounds of good taste that make people ask questions and remember the answers are totally appropriate. Imagine a child going on line afterwards and telling all her friends there was Lego on her seder plate (and then explaining why!).
By the way, this antipathy toward pigs is really absurd and not particularly Jewish. The Torah tells us we can’t EAT pigs; it doesn’t tell us we can’t look at them or even like them. They too, remember, were created by God. And many commentators teach us that the “mitzvah value” of not eating pork is reduced when we see pigs as disgusting. In other words, how much credit ought a person get for “restraining” himself from eating something he wouldn’t want to eat anyway?
Chag sameach!

Should make for interesting to have one of each Seder plate on the table–let the conversating begin!

Nicola says:

Late, I know, but still. Finger puppets of the 10 Plagues, as seen on The Daily Show: http://www.zionjudaica.com/Plush_Finger_Puppet_10_Plagues-1740.asp

Rebecca says:

I think the idea to make it more meaningful to our children is a great idea – yet I think we need to be careful to choose items that hold the same symbolism. For example, gummy worms instead of maror don’t work because they are sweet…it needs to be something that causes us and our children to remember the bitterness of slavery (gummy worms are fun and tasty – not yucky in anyway). However, legos to build and play with definitely fits – maybe even better than the original charoseth idea :)

rebecca — excellent point. the text specifies SOUR gummy-worms, which are coated with a vile super-sour salty-sugar substance that children unaccountably love to hate or hate to love.
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pedro — what a fascinating post. thanks for sharing.

Ruth says:

I love this idea – making our practices and ceremonies relatable to kids is a wonderful thing, and who ever said that a seder must be a somber, stately ritual, anyhow?? If the revisions are respectful and if they are done with good intentions, then in my opinion it’s all good. I think that making this an interactive exercise/discussion, to involve all seder participants, is a great way to engage those who might have “checked out” from the traditional seder experience long ago.

I had to chuckle at the couple of knee-jerk reactions to the “sacriligious” sour gummy worms and the picture of the pig from Charlotte’s Web. It’s not exactly like the author of this post suggested we place a few strips of BACON on the plate, for heaven’s sake! As Pedro commented, a pig is not inherently dirty or evil or bad, and it’s one of G-d’s creatures. (And the one pictured was darned cute, to boot!) As a parent, I agree that the first couple of posters should, with all due respect, lighten up a bit. We are so worried about things like inter-marriage and the dwindling of our “ranks”; digging in of heels and being resistent to creative, respectful attempts to make the religion come “alive” for our younger generations seems incredibly short-sighted and counter-intuitive.

And you shall tell the Passover story to the children, right? I think Ms. Ingall’s tongue-in-cheek posting about creating a kid-friendly Seder plate is clever, not offensive.
We uh just did two Seders with our 2-year-old, one very simple one at home, and one at a friends’ house with 16 people in attendance. How far parents should go in making Seders kid-friendly is definitely a lively, ongoing debate. Check out my take on it as a first-time parent on my blog, http://jewishmuse.com (See my part one and two entries about spending Passover Seders with a toddler.)
Kudos, meanwhile, to Ruth for putting it beautifully in her comment. We most definitely should embrace “creative, respectful attempts to make the religion come alive for our younger generations.” I, for one, want my son to anticipate, not dread Passover each year.

While I wouldn’t advocate replacing the traditional seder plate with Marjorie’s version, she clearly is on to something that, as Pedro points out, is clearly in line with the approach of the Tannaim.

At our shul’s seder this year, I gave candy and gum to all of the children at the (are you sitting down…) *start* of the seder. A modern twist on the Ramabam, who taught that we ought to do things out-of-order so that the children will inquire as to why that particular night is different from all other nights.

Bechol dor vador…if we are to retell the story, it should be done in ways that get us, and our kids, really thinking. And questioning. And answering.

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