This week on Unorthodox: public swimming pool drama in Brooklyn, and one Jewish man’s unusual sperm donation program.

We don’t have a Jewish guest this week, but we have reached peak gentile: award-winning architect Duo Dickinson, a cradle Episcopalian, joins us for a lively discussion about drinking, WASPs, and the difference between designing a church and a synagogue. He also brings us a secular sacrament—Triscuits and homemade iced tea—and a book called Haikus for Jews.

We also get a visit from our producer Julie’s daughter Leah, who joins us on-air for a discussion of presumptive Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump.

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