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Allah Is a Zionist

The Quranic argument for Jewish sovereignty in the land of Israel

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An 11th-century North African Quran in the British Museum. (Wikipedia)

Over the past 15 years, the political conflict between Israeli Jews and Palestinian Arabs has been reframed as a religious war in which leaders from Yasser Arafat to Hassan Nasrallah to Osama bin Laden have appealed to the authority of the Quran to support their goal of eliminating the State of Israel. The authority of the Quran has also been cited in support of a revisionist history that seeks to deny the historical connection of the Jewish people to the city of Jerusalem and to its holiest sites, including the Temple Mount. Ignorant of what the Quran actually says about Jerusalem, Western reporters have recently tended to ignore archeological and historical evidence and give equal weight to the supposedly competing religious narratives of Jews and Muslims: Jews are said to believe that there was a Jewish temple in Jerusalem, while the Quran states that the historical and religious claims of the Jews are false.

The transformation of a political conflict over land into a religious war is one of the most dangerous and frightening goals of radical Islamist politicians—but it has nothing to do with the Quran.

Here the Italian Muslim communal leader and Quranic scholar Sheik Abdul Hadi Palazzi examines what the Quran says about the connection of the Jewish people to the land of Israel. Far from negating the historical claims of a Jewish presence on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem, the Quran actually confirms Jewish accounts of the building of Solomon’s Temple in Jerusalem and supports the Biblical claim that the land of Israel was given to the Jews by God.

1. Jewish sovereignty in Jerusalem

In August 2002, the Yasser Arafat-appointed “mufti of Jerusalem and the Holy Land,” Ikrima Sabri, told the Western media that “there is not even the smallest indication of the existence of a Jewish temple in Jerusalem in the past. In the whole city, there is not even a single stone indicating Jewish history.” By saying this, he confirmed what Arafat had already said to the London-based Arabic paper al-Hayat and reportedly repeated to Bill Clinton and Ehud Barak at Camp David: “Archaeologists have not found a single stone proving that the Temple of Solomon was there because historically the Temple was not in Palestine.”

In making such statements, Sabri and Arafat not only blatantly denied history, archeology, and the teachings of the Bible, but they also denied the words of the Quran. From the time of the Revelation of the Noble Quran until recently, all Muslims unanimously accepted that the Haram as-Sharif, or Holy Esplanade, on which the Dome of the Rock today stands is the same place where Solomon’s and Zorobabel’s Temples once stood. As a matter of fact, Haram as-Sharif, the Sacred Area of Temple Mount, includes a place called Solomon’s Standpoint, or Maqam Sulayman—according to the Muslim tradition, Solomon used to sit there and supplicate while Hiram’s masons were engaged in building the Temple. From that same place the Muslim tradition says that Solomon prayed to dedicate the House once it was completed and to intercede for those who will approach it for worshipping.

Accepting that Solomon’s Temple was in Jerusalem is compulsory for every Muslim believer, because that is what the Quran and the Islamic oral tradition, called the Sunnah, teach.

In the Quran, Surah Bani Isra’il (the Chapter of the Children of Israel), verses 1-7, we find a description of Solomon’s Temple and of how it was destroyed twice by the enemies of the Jewish people:

Glory to Him Who caused His servant [Muhammad] to travel by night from Masjid al-Haram [in Mecca] to Masjid al-Aqsa [in Jerusalem] whose precincts We did bless, in order that We might show him some of Our Signs: for He is the One Who heareth and seeth everything. We gave Moses the Book [Torah], and made it a Guide to the Children of Israel, commanding: ‘Take not other than Me as Disposer of your affairs.’ O ye that are the offspring of those whom We carried [in the Ark] with Noah, verily he was a devotee most grateful. And We warned the Children of Israel in the Book, that twice would they do mischief on the earth and twice be elated with mighty arrogance. When the first of the warnings came to pass, We sent against you Our creatures [Babylonians], given to terrible warfare: they entered the very inmost parts of your homes, and thus the first warning was fulfilled. Then We did grant you the return as against them; We gave you increase in resources and sons and made you abundant in human power. If ye did well, ye did well for yourselves; if ye did evil, [ye did it] against yourselves. So when the second of the warnings came to pass, [We permitted your enemies] to disfigure your faces, and to enter your Temple as they entered it once before, and to bring to destruction all that fell into their power.

Imam Abu Abdullah al-Qurtubi, who lived from 1214 to 1273 and was one of the most authoritative medieval Quranic annotators, in his Al-Jami’ li Ahkam il-Qur’an, or Encyclopedia of Quranic Rules, explains the context (asbab) of the verses by mentioning among other sources the authentic Prophetic tradition (hadith). He wrote:

Hudhayfah Ibn al-Yaman asked the Prophet Muhammad, peace and blessings be upon him:

‘I travelled more than once to Jerusalem, but saw no Temple standing there. What is the reason?’

The Prophet Muhammad replied:

‘Verily Solomon son of David raised Bayt al-Maqdis [i.e., Beth ha-Mikdash, the First Temple] with gold and silver, with rubies and emeralds, and Allah caused human beings and spirits to work under his command, until the raising of the House was completed. Afterwards a Babylonian King destroyed Bayt al-Maqdis and brought its treasures to the land of Babylonia, until a King of Persia defeated him and ransomed the Children of Israel. They rebuilt Bayt al-Maqdis for the second time [the Second Temple], until it was destroyed for the second time by an army led by a Roman Emperor.’

One can easily verify that Jewish and Muslim traditional sources are confirming each other: The Temple was built by Solomon and destroyed by a Babylonian king. A Persian king later defeated the Babylonians and ransomed the Jews, permitting them to return to the Land of Israel. The Temple was rebuilt but afterward was destroyed by the Romans. This Temple stood in the area referred to as Beth haMikdash in Hebrew and Bayt al-Maqdis in Arabic. Those political and pseudo-religious Palestinian leaders who claim that “there was never a Jewish Temple in Jerusalem” are surely aware that, in order to support their political claims, they are compelled to lie, hide sources, and contradict the letter of the Quran and the Islamic tradition.

An earlier Quranic exegete and jurist, Imam Muhammad ibn Jarir at-Tabari, who lived from 838 to 923, writes in his Tarikh al-Rusul wa al-Muluk, or History of Prophets and Kings, that the same sacred area was the place where Jacob had his vision of the Heavenly Ladder:

When Jacob awoke he felt blissful from what he had seen in his trustful dream and vowed, for God’s sake that, if he returned to his family safely, he would build there a Temple for the Almighty. He also vowed to perpetual charity one tenth of his property for the sake of God. He poured oil on the Stone so as to recognize it and called the place Bayt El, which means ‘the House of God.’ It became the location of Jerusalem later.

In Jerusalem on a huge Rock, Solomon son of David built a beautiful Temple to expand the worship of God. Today on the base of that Temple stands the Dome of the Rock.

Historical negation of Jewish and Islamic sources concerning Jerusalem is recent and does not predate the PLO and its political propaganda. In 1932, during the British Mandate period, the Supreme Muslim Council of Jerusalem published a Brief Guide to Haram as-Sharif for Muslim pilgrims, written in English. “This site is one of the oldest in the world,” it says. “Its sanctity dates from the earliest times. Its identity with the site of Solomon’s Temple is beyond dispute. This, too, is the spot, according to universal belief, on which David built there an altar unto the Lord, and offered burnt offerings and peace offerings.”

Not only were Arafat’s minions and heirs in Jerusalem attempting to rewrite the history of Arabs and Jews in the region as told by others; they were also attempting to rewrite the history of Arabs and Jews in the region as told by Islamic Arab sources, too.

2. Jewish sovereignty in the Land of Israel

The Biblical notion that God granted the land of Canaan to the Children of Israel is confirmed by the Quran. In the Surah of Jonah, verse 93, we read:

We settled the Children of Israel in a beautiful dwelling-place, and provided for them sustenance of the best.

In Surah al-Ahraf (of the Barrier), verse 137, we read:

We made a people considered weak inheritors of the Land in both Eastern and Western side [of the Jordan river] whereon we sent down Our blessings. The fair promise of thy Lord was fulfilled for the Children of Israel, because they had patience and constancy, and We levelled to the ground the great works and fine buildings which Pharaoh and his people erected.

Surah al Maidah (the Table), verse 21, is the only passage in which the Holy Land is mentioned by that title (al-Ard al-Muqaddas). It refers to the words Moses spoke to the descendants of Isaac:

Remember Moses said To his people: ‘O my People, call in remembrance the favor of God unto you, when He produced prophets among you, made you kings, and gave You what He had not given To any other among the peoples. O my people! Enter The Holy Land which God hath written for you, and turn not back ignominiously [to this heritage of yours], for then will ye be overthrown, to your own ruin.

In a commentary of Imam Abu al-Qasim Mahmud al-Zamakshari, who lived from 1074 to 1144, titled al-Kashaf, or The Revealer, we read the following explanation:

As for the borders of ‘the Holy Land,’ some scholars says its northern border is the Mount [Hermon] and its surroundings, and for others in also includes a part of the Land of Sham [the Golan]. Others say it extends from the territory of the Philistines [Gaza] until Damascus and a part of Urvum. Some say that God presented to Abraham this Land as an inheritance for his children when he went up to the mountain and said to him: ‘Look around as far as your gaze can reach. Every place reached by your eyes will be theirs.’ The Holy Temple was the dwelling place of the prophets and the residence of the believers. ‘God hath written for you’ means ‘God swore it and wrote in the Divine Tablets of Predestination: that it is yours, belongs to your people and do not turn back from it. Do not be afraid of the Philistine giants who live there.

A similar note is also found in a commentary of Abdallah ibn ‘Umar al-Qadi al-Baidawi, who lived from 1226 to 1260, titled Asrar ut-Tanzil wa Asrar ut-Ta’wil, or The Secrets of Revelation and the Secrets of Interpretation.

3. Jewish sovereignty in the Land of Israel was never abolished

Moreover, the Quran explicitly refers to the return of the Jews to the Land of Israel before the Last Judgment when it says in the Surah of the Children of Israel, verse 104:

And thereafter We [God] said to the Children of Israel: ‘Dwell securely in the Promised Land. And when the last warning will come to pass, we will gather you together in a mingled crowd.’

Therefore, from an Islamic point of view, Israel is the legitimate owner of the land God deeded to her and whose borders were defined by Abraham in Genesis.

All recent claims according to which the “assignment of the Land of Israel to the Jewish people was withdrawn or abrogated” are bereft of scriptural or traditional evidence. The Quran mentions the territory that God assigned to the Jewish people, but neither it nor the traditional Islamic sources mention a supposed withdrawal.

Imam al-Qurtubi explains in al-Jami that the last promise concerning the return of the Jewish people “together in a mingled crowd” after the destruction of the Second Temple will be a sign that precedes the coming of the Messiah.

The Quran only mentions a double period of mischief and a double punishment with exile from the Land. God says:

We warned the Children of Israel in the Book, that TWICE would they do mischief on the earth and TWICE be elated with mighty arrogance.

According to this Quranic proof, the contemporary Zionist rebuilding of the State of Israel—the third entry of the Jews to their divinely appointed land—is not mischief but rather a fulfillment of what Imam az-Zamakshari reminds the Jews: “God swore it and wrote in the Divine Tablets of Predestination: that it is yours, belongs to your people and do not turn back from it.”

Sheikh Abdul Hadi Palazzi is secretary general of the Italian Muslim Assembly.

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If only Muslims would accept their own Quran.

Lawrence Weinberg says:

Given the image of Muslims reading, reciting and memorizing verses from their scriptures, do they deny this or discount this, or are they liars? Nothing political meant by this question. I could accept any plausible answer.

Fascinating!

Byzantine Dominican says:

Mr. Weinberg,

To be charitable, I would suggest that there is a fourth possibility.

If one is fanatically convinced of a proposition and sees a contradiction in their own scripture, often what they do is (subconsciously) skip over the particular passage, or it doesn’t even register with their consciousness.
I was raised Protestant, read the entire Bible a number of times, but just skipped over passages that I now as proving Catholicism. There wasn’t any attempt at denial on my part. It was more akin to blindness.

Let me second Eli and say “Fascinating!” While the author does not solve the political problem, in making it no longer a theological problem he does a great service to both sides of the conflict.

akhenaten says:

@ Mr, weinberg and the rest
the jews relied on the old testament bible to verify their sovereign state in palestine,for after all the bible was a historical& religious reference. but when modern archeology managed to refute the historical veracity of the jews in palestine. the zionists found themselves cornered and embaressed..and they now have one way out of this dilemma .
and that is the religious side of the bible..but again – all educated people – know that the israelites found its way – somehow – into the “Quran”..and by focusing on the “israelite verses” in the ” Quran ” the jews think that it will defenitely be their irrefutable claim to a state sovereignty in palestine..but they will have a hard time trying to survive this dream as well..because no one in the arabic MUSLIM world iterprets the above mentioned verses in the way it was presented..you see, we,r funny this way..when it comes to ” israel ” we have another interpretation,very different from the ” fascinating ” one in question.
now, i can find the jews empty handed ..after the historical& religious weapons of their ” bible ” had proven impotent and overstated.

Edmond says:

Response to akhenaten
Some archeologists refute some stories of the Bible, but neither modern nor old archelogy ever refute the historical veracity of the jews in Palestine, which actually was not Palestine but Judea, with Jewish Hasmonean kings, and afterwards, when the Roman Empire occupied Judea, two jewish revolts in 66 and 132. The coins of that period are interesting for archeology, modern or not, with their words in hebrew, like “shana B herut tsion” (Year II of independence of Zion) or “yerushalaïm hakedosha” (Jerusalem the saint) and so on.
Modern archeology found the scriptures of the Dead Sea. They are not writen in arab, but in hebrew.
Denying jewish presence in Judea is as ridiculous as denying spanish presence in Spain.

Nihaya says:

No one is denying the presence of Jews in Palestine, and if they treated the Palestinians fairly from the beginning, I don’t think there would be so much hatred towards them now. Also, what this author is quoting, are verses from the Quran that are telling the story of Moses (pbuh) and his followers when they were fighting slavery against the Pharoahs of Egypt. God did indeed promise the land to the Israelites of THAT time when they were seeking refuge from an aggressor. However, when they defied Moses (pbuh) and turned their backs on him (worshipping a golden calf…) they were cursed for doing so. What the author fails to do is provide the rest of the information in the Quran that completes the story… like the emergence of the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)and his message of Islam that is supposed to be the final chapter to the 3 messages given by God (Judaism, Christianity & Islam) And that land became holy to the final monotheistic religion, because of the story of him ascending to heaven and praying with all of God’s prophets (may peace be upon them all). This is what Muslims believe, this is why some of you may be confused about why they may “ignore” that part of the Quran… they do not… it’s the author failed to give you the full version.

Abraham Kaplan says:

Who are the Palestinians? They are descendants of Syrians and Egyptians
who were attracted to Israel, because the Jews were rebuilding the land.
They have no valid historical claim to Judea and Samaria.

Israel made a grave mistake after the 67 and 73 wars. They should have
deported all the so-called Palestinians to Syria, Lebanon and Egypt.
The would have taken some heat for a few years, but after that, there would be none of this nonsense, about Palestinian rights.

Jerusalem is the capital of Israel. The city will not be divided, and if
Arabs want to live there, it will be under Israels’ authority. If the
muslims have a problem with this, let them look elsewhere.

Nihaya says:

ok Abraham, than Israel should agree to a one state solution and give ALL Palestinians voting rights and allow them to be citizens with the same rights Israelis have…. Why don’t they do that??? Oh wait, because the Israelis are afraid of the Arab majority in just a few years that will vote them out. Palestinians are natives of the land, the Israelis (most of them) are European immigrants or descendants of European immigrants. Spare me the bs of all the Arabs immigrating from other places… Palestine existed for a VERY long time, most recently the 500 year rule by the Ottoman empire…. your history is skewed. There were always Palestinians and there always will be. Sad that you can’t recognize it, but others are taking notice.

Dov Meir says:

The Islam is not the last faith. The last one is the Bahaians.
The Arab in Israel are not Arabs. A high percent of them are descents of Jews were forces by the verse “The low of Muhammad is the sword”. They are afraid to be back Jews because the react of the Islam is death. The Arabs killed enormous number of Benei Israel refusing to be Muslims in spite of the fact that they believe one G-D. The Jewish faith stated that G-D does not changed his mind, Because his wisdom is infinite. But Muslims believed that he changed his mind, it means that Islam believe that G-D wisdom is not infinite. That is the reason he he changed his mind to the “last faith” By this way of believing Muslims are becoming from some aspects idolatries, They believe that G-D is ignorance. Even more. The size of the bloodsheds done by Islam make this faith to be a death faith, A faith of murderers, and not a faith of life. As we see every where on this Globe when Muslims are becoming a significant big minority they are beginning to bomb and to sought all around them.
In Lebanon the Christians are running away. In beth Lechem (In Israel) The Christians are running away. In Egypt every some periods there are pogrom against them by Muslims. In Gaza we see videos showing how Muslims are killing Christians like dogs by shooting them even in the middle of a wedding ceremony. An agreement done by Muslims is according the Islam a step of cheating as Arafat stated in Durban –South Africa.. They think that they can cheat G-D because they believe in fact that he is not so wize…!!!
The Islam should go back to the peace way. The Islam’s request from the Muslims to take advice from Bnei Israel in faith principals. The Sanhedrin which was reestablished in Israel before 5 Years is calling all the nations to keep the 7 orders of Noach
a. believing one G-D
b. no murder
c. no busness with others wife or incest
d. not cursing G-D,
e. Forbidding any kind of having money by criminal ways.
f. Not eating an animal part before it is killed
g. Establishing courts to punish the one does not obey the previous lows.

Gavriel says:

What are we debating here, a fascinating topic, to be sure.

Facts are, “Palestine” was split and the Jews were given a part (the secondary part – without the temple mount). The Muslims got most of Jerusalem (including the temple mount).

This apparently was not good enough for them and they planned the destruction of the “Zionist state.”

They lost.

Various branches of “freedom fighters,” and other such terms have formed. The sole purpose of which, is to destroy Israel as a home for the Jews. They are not interested in living together, just in their sole purpose of destroying Israel.

Reasonable people (who expect others to be reasonable in return) cannot understand the depth and single mindedness of the hatred that is harboured towards Israel by a large and vehemently outspoken Muslim minority (yes, most muslims really do want to live in peace).

Negotiations are of no use when one is dealing with “unreasonable people.”

“Palestine,” as a common term, is relatively new in history, probably not more than 1 or 2 hundred years old and most certainly, the term “Palestinian” has very little history behind it. I don’t believe that “Palestine” is even an Arabic word!

What exactly are we debating, the (recent) historical facts speak for themselves, and the biblical stuff, well, if you are Christian, Muslim or Jewish, you all claim belief in the “old testament” as it is often called – with a few suitable changes (Christians and Muslims)!

So, again, what exactly are we debating here?

akhenaten says:

Response to Edmond, Abraham & a big Hi to Nihaya
As i mentioned before, the modern archeology refuted all the jewish historical allegations to a homeland in palestine..and not any archeologists..i,m talking here and quoting ISRAELI ARCHEOLOGISTS. namely, ISRAEL FINKELSTEIN & ZE,EF HERZOG.of telaviv university.
In 1999, Herzog’s Haaretz weekly magazine cover page article “Deconstructing the walls of Jericho” attracted considerable public attention and debates. In this article Herzog states- scientifically – that the Israelites were never in Egypt, did not wander in the desert, did not conquer the land in a military campaign and did not pass it on to the 12 tribes of Israel. Perhaps even harder to swallow is the fact that the united monarchy of David and Solomon, which is described by the Bible as a regional power, was at most a small tribal kingdom. And it will come as an unpleasant shock to many that the God of Israel, Jehovah, had a female consort and that the early Israelite religion adopted monotheism only in the waning period of the monarchy and not at Mount Sinai”..
as i posted earlier, now all educated people know for a fact that the old testament bible is full of exaggerations & forgery ..and you can,t possibly build a state on such fragile basis ..not for long..!

moshe says:

“the Biblical claim that the land of Israel was given to the Jews by God.”
Fine, but there is nothing in the traditional desire to return to the Land that necessitates it take the form of the modern entity known as the nation-state!

J. Bob says:

From the archives of Assyria,Babylon, and the Arch of Titus, the presence of Judea and Israel has been adequately established. The recent find at Khirbet Qeiyfa, SW of Jerusalem, show a established monarchy, and early writing of a moral code about 1000 B.C. (Biblical Archaeology Review Mar./April 2010).

Morris Mizrahi says:

To Mr Nihaya, when the UN decided on two states back in 1948 it is not the Jews that did not accept this solution but the Palestinians who immediately with the help of the other surrounding Arab states waged a war on the new state of Israel in order to destroy it and “to throw all Jews into the sea”. I do not even mention the help of the Nazis who fled to the middle east and helped the Palestinians. The lost fair and square.So why Israelis should now accept a single state? And yes they can be afraid that in time the Palestinians will outnumber them in a single state. Is this not a legitimate worry? How can you leave in a same state with people whose only aim is to destroy you? Yes the Palestinian population is a victim but the fault lies with their leaders.The only solution now is two states which will bring peace to the region. It requires courage and good will from both sides. And please forget all the biblical stuff it will bring no solution as there are as many ways to interpret the holy books as there are interpreters. For me religion and belief is between God and Man and for each one in his own way. This should have nothing to do with politics. But I have to admit, easier to be said than to be done.

Morris Mizrahi says:

Sorry for some mistakes due to haste.
-”They lost fair and square”
-” How can you live in a same state…..”

Lawrence Weinberg says:

Remember “The Blues Brothers” with the late John Belushi and Dan Akroyd? After meeting with The Penguin (a Catholic nun (if only Christians could invoke a fatwa) Jake Blues “Sees the light.” The narrative is driven by the Blues Brothers on a “Mission from G-d.” Oh my Arab cousins. Don’t take yourselves so seriously. Every religion claims to supersede the ones before it. So I’ll offer you a compromise. Let us all follow Joseph Smith and join the Church of Latter Day Saints. Yes, we can all become Mormons. You can have many wives (oops, you been there, done that; BTW, why would ANYONE want more than one wife?) and we will all eschew alcohol and you can ski in Utah instead of Dubai. The last religion wins, you said that right? Gevalt.

Vladdi Basarab says:

You don’t even have to reach that far to find Qur’anic references to “The People of Israel” (not ‘the Jews’) it starts at page 8 and just goes on and on!

Sura (chapter) 17 of the Qur’an is even entitled “The People of Israel” (!)

This means “those people living in the Land called Israel” and it even then specifies the distinction between these (‘the Jews’ with whom MOses was given The Book of Discernment aka the Torah) etc.

‘Palestine’ was the name given to the place formerly known as Judaea and Hebron by the Roman Emperor Vespasian, AFTER the Diaspora. It probably wasn’t even named after the “philistines” (the historical enemies of the Hebrew Tribes, who btw weren’t living in the area of the lands of those seven tribes genocided by Moshe; they weren’t even on Moshe’s hit list!) It was just as likely names after Palas Athena.

Muhammad himself “clearly,” directly, and absolutely assigned the land-deed title to the Land of Israel to the Jewish people, for all time!

Any hypocrites who deny this easy to read truth, contradict the Qur’an itself.

Period.

;-)

Vladdi Basarab says:

and, although the “Children of Israel,” “The People of Israel” are mentioned ad nauseum in the Qur’an, the philistines aren’t ever mentioned, much less any so-called ‘palestinians’ (!) Not. Even. Once.

;-)

Henrique says:

How many times the word “Al Quds” appears in the Al Coran?

Abdul says:

Dear Brothers,
It is Clearly mentioned in Al Quran ” Don’t mork other religion ,Least in the ignorance they will Mork Allah Subhanahutallah (The Most Merciful,The Most beneficient)”
Unless you know the meaning of Allah -The only God, You will remain confused & ignorant.
Here the comment is ” Allah is Zionist ”
He’the God blessed the Bani Israel -children of Israel , Not a religion called Jews
He blessed those who followed the preaching of Allah Messenger ” Dawood Peace be unto him “, But in ignorance the followers of Dawood Alaisalam worshipping him, not his creator Allah Subhanahu’tallah.
” Dawood in Arabic = David in english ”
In Torah ,one of the revealed book It clearly mentions Worship the Creator not his Creature.
“ISLAM means Submiting your Will to Allah Almighty Alone ” Is any where mentioned that Allah is Zionist,

This is really fascinating. This interpretation ought to get out there a lot more. Maybe http://www.leadel.net can interview Sheikh Palazzi?

Pinchas says:

As a student of ancient religions I am aware of one simple rule of Islamic exegesis. Anyone more versed in Islamic studies may agree or correct me on this, please. “A later Sura, supersedes an earlier Sura.” Thus the pronouncements uttered later overshadows and nullifies a previous ruling or teaching. Simple and very easily implemented to combat any contradictions. All one has to do it to point to a later Sura.

Gavriel says:

@ Abdul
“The people of Israel” and “the Jewish people” are one and the same. The name Jew is taken from the name “Yehuda” which was the name of one of the sons of Jacob from whom are descended the Davidic dynasty.

David was NOT worshipped, as eveidence by the LATER construction of the temple by his son Solomon(Suleiman).

To quote J. Bob “From the archives of Assyria,Babylon, and the Arch of Titus, the presence of Judea and Israel has been adequately established. The recent find at Khirbet Qeiyfa, SW of Jerusalem, show a established monarchy, and early writing of a moral code about 1000 B.C. (Biblical Archaeology Review Mar./April 2010).”

About 700 years after the beginning of the common era, the text of the “old testament” was changed, to suggest that it was Ishmael and not Isaac that was to be sacrificed. This was to suuport the new Religion of Islam.

Islam is only about 1500 years old, the people of Israel are at least double that, see the comments made by Mark Twain on the Jew.

Gavriel says:

@ Abdul
Just as a matter of fact, another name for Jacob is Israel, the children of Israel included among them Yehudah (Judah) from where the name Jew is taken.

I suggest that you check your facts before making wild statements.

Yitzchak says:

Thanks are owed to Sheik Abdul Hadi Palazzi: mille grazie, dal mio cuore. All of the above responses are intriguing, but far broader points (as ever) are missed, such that would even allow someone like an Arafat to dare to suggest that there is no precedent of a Jewish Israel. Muslims (and Christians, for that matter) absolutely hate the fact that Judaism is their parent religion, and that their religions are mere third-rate dilutions of the original, like a condensed version of a book. They’ve been seething about it for millennia. Primary evidence of this is post-Constantine Christianity, which is based on his vile fabrications about anything and everything to do with Judaism’s imagined culpability in Christ’s death. That idiot is singularly responsible for having placed a curse an entire people for nearly 2000 years; the Nazis must have adored him in secret. Muslims have exploited this disinformation, too, and just about every thing the author has presented here undermines and exposes Arafatian-styled arguments against Israel. It amplifies the evidence of Palestinian use of bogus propaganda. Another trenchant reality is that the so-called ‘brotherhood’ of Islam wouldn’t even extend to absorbing a mere handful of its brethren in 1948, when the Jews, members of the most unjustly persecuted race in history, were returning to their homeland. And for Ahkenaten, above, he’s a Zionist’s dream: one who a) naively thinks that non-Muslims haven’t read the Quran, and b) blatantly, ignominiously interprets it to suit his own ends.

Marty says:

I’d like to address some matters of fact raised in the above discussion:

1. Arabic has no “P,” so the people who tell everyone that they are Palestinian are actually “Filastiniun.” The name is derived from the Philistines, with whom they have no identifiable connection. Even if the Filastiniun could forge a link, the Philistines arrived in Canaan somewhat more than a century (c.1050) after the Israelites and never occupied territory much beyond the current Gaza Strip.

2. The Bible actually says that the Isrealite conquest of Canaan will be slow, so it is unsurprising that no evidence for a blitzkrieg takeover has been found. My understanding of the current state of the debate in serious archaeological circles is that the question is whether the Israelites took over in the Thirteenth or Twelfth pre-Christian century, a matter that has no evident implications for the legitimacy of the Jewish claim to the Land. There is also discussion about the extent to which the Israelites represent a new ethnic group which eventually absorbed the pre-existing population or simply a new religious order. If the latter, then there is no prior claimant on the Land. If the former, it really doesn’t matter.

3. Until the establishment of Israel, “Palestinian” referred to the Jews. I’ve never heard of a people that didn’t have a name for themselves, yet the Filastiniun appear to have been one.

The upshot is that the so-called “Palestinian narrative” is basically a lot BS and everyone, including the Filastiniun would be better off acknowledging the reality and going from there.

Truth says:

My dear friends, I wish you all the deepest peace, mercy, compassion, love, and serenity.

It is time for all of us to look within ourselves and very honestly embrace Truth. We must be ever watchful of the exertion of unresolved pain in our own souls that drives us to satisfy selfish ends.

Unfortunately, the Israelites killed a lot of people to secure the land of Canaan. Even if this was indeed a Divine mandate, it could only have been to appease the needs of the people, as God is completely free of need. Does this mean that the people that came before have a valid claim to this land as prior owners? And who is speaking on their behalf?

The modern state of Israel was secured using methods labeled today as “terrorism.” And any justification that arises from a personal need will forever be tainted. The Jews of the world have much healing to go through. And what we are seeing today unfortunately are the cries of their suffering. And unprocessed suffering leads to suffering for all. However, this doesn’t make it alright to hurt others.

Of course, similar arguments can be made against the Palestinians. And then you see that we go around in circles moving further away from a lasting solution and closer to self-destruction.

It is very sad that the state of Israel was secured by violence, because this almost certainly means that the Land of Peace will in fact never have peace. Nothing short of magnanimous generosity and graciousness from all parties involved will produce a lasting peace. But enough of the groups involved make the same mistake over and over again, which is to push for their own selfish ends. And because this is the human condition, one wonders if we human beings are actually capable of such virtue on this large scale. I wonder if this is why, according to orthodox Judaism, Israel is only to be established by the Messiah. This is likely because only the Messiah has the spiritual power and authority to put a stop to all of our nonsense.

The reality is that no one really owns anything. Everything is on loan from God. Ultimately, we MUST learn to share. There is no other way. If you do not embrace your neighbors, the result is enmity. And it is so much easier to simply embrace your neighbors. And it is quite absurd to try to annihilate them because you can never succeed. You are paving a sure path to self-destruction which begins as the loss of your own soul. We may get away with a lot down here, but in the meeting with your Lord you surely will not. And if you played a part in covering up the truth, you are especially cursed (this is my concern for anyone who advocates a perspective that satisfies the needs of any community to the exclusion of another). The only complete solution to any problem is one that is good for EVERYONE, leaving absolutely no one out.

Every community is a chosen people. In times of fidelity to God, they enjoyed Divine blessings and generosity. And almost every community in human history has at some point broken their covenant with the Divine, the results of which have always been self-generated suffering that ultimately serves as a means to purification and return to God. We must all take a step back and see the world from Heaven’s Eyes, and not merely from our own very limited perspectives. Everyone has a place on this planet as evinced by the plain reality of ones existence. And THIS is far more significant than the relative truth that is particular to time, place, and circumstance. We must get over our selfish selves and cultivate an attitude of pure altruism and service.

I am sure that the negative posts here come from people who experience love for at least some people in their lives. If you want to know true freedom and illumination, extend this love to the entire world.

May we all be guided by the One.

Shirley Threet says:

May God Bless Israel, & the Jews he gave Israel to.

Truth says:

Dear Shirley,
God’s love and generosity is for everyone. God is not miserly like people can be. If you resist God’s love, if you choose not to embrace it, your heart will remain closed, your soul will wallow in darkness, and your body will become sick.
God is gracious and merciful, allowing us full opportunity to learn the easy way. Otherwise, you learn the hard way, which involves pain and suffering. The choice is yours.

Serge says:

I think that Akhenaten’s postings are very helpful and very important, because they work in conjunction with the main article to show the only rhetorical position that is left for Muslims. Muslim anti-Zionism is, fundamentally, about denying the Jewish people’s existence and, particularly, its history. It is essential to Muslim anti-Zionists to claim that today’s Jews are foreigners who adhere to a common religion but who otherwise have no collective existence or common connection. Some do this by arguing that there is no Jewish history in Israel, as so many Palestinian leaders have done in denying the existence of, even, our historic Temple. Others do this by admitting that Jews existed historically in Israel, but claiming that the diaspora never existed — so that, if there did exist a Jewish people, it was subsumed into the Palestinian people. (The latter version requires a simultaneous denial of history with respect to the people who today identify themselves as the Palestinian people, whose history is scarcely less multicultural or complex.) What is common among them is to deny any collective rights, any collective history to the Jewish people, and, of course, any right to self-determination under international law for the Jewish people. Isn’t that last “no” the basis, after all, for the so-called “two-state solution” — to ignore whether the Jewish people wishes, in exercising its right to self-determination, to form such a state, and simply to tell it what to do?

I find it absurd to the point of surrealism the arguments that I read from Muslims on this topic, as well as that of the Israeli-Arab conflict. From forums like these, it seems to me that many Muslims are so unused to analysis of different opinions that they will many times cite one study that they have probably not read as “proof” of something, or even worse, cite widely circulated fabrications that are completely untenable with even them must cursory glance at the actual source (take for example, blood libels – while the Torah explicitly prohibits eating blood).

Lets consider a few of these fabrications:
If the “Jews” (i.e. Judeans, or Judios, or Juden) of today are not the Israelites of previous times, then how to explain the continous nature of the prophetic (Isaiah,Jeremias,Daniel,etc), agadic (Midrash) and legal texts (Mishnah, Jerusalem/Babel Talmuds, etc)? These texts (together with the Torah or “Old Testament” and Prophets) all predate Islam and are many times plagiarized or directly quoted by the Quran (see for example how Sura II, 60 plagiarizes Gemara Shabbat 88a when it says that G-d “held the mountain over them”). These sources (Kings) clearly show how the Israelites came to be called “Yehudim” (because of the split of the Israelite kingdom into “Israel” and “Yehuda”, the former not surviving). There is also very good documentation on how Jewish populations moved throughout the ages, which populations converted to their faith (Persians, Khazars, Berbers, Ethiopians, etc) – nobody denies that there have been Jews continously in much of the Arab world, Europe, Iran and other places without any interuption. It is practically impossible that the “real” Jews suddenly were lost and a different group came to replace them since there is commentary from secondary sources in practically every historical period. Muslims never claimed otherwise (my maternal family, Hedaya/Abd-el-Wahed, was in ‘Halab, Syria documented for over 1 thousand years) until there was a political reason to make it.

Another Islamic “myth” is more sensitive still: Muhammad’s revelation “shows” that the prophecies of hundreds of Israelite prophets was “changed” by these same Israelites. If that is the case, what was changed? Why are all the sources consistent? If Ishmael was the successor of Abraham, then why did G-d give Isaacs descendants the Sinai revelation according to the Qur’an? Where were these Ishmaelites for over 1,500 years while the Israelites were receiving the revelation at Sinai and practicing montheism, while they were polytheist? How is it that practically everything in the Qur’an about previous times is already in Jewish sources? How can one revelation given by an angel contradict thousands of prophecies given directly by G-d to Israelite prophets (Muhammad makes no attempt to deny that this occured, and admits they are prophets)?

How can one revelation by one angel contradict a revelation that was given to at least 600,000 Israelites simultaneously on Mount Sinai according to the Qur’ans own admission (I quoted the source above)?!

In conclusion, what argument can Muslims make for these kinds of sources?

Gavriel says:

@Truth

Over all, I agree with most of what you say with a few qualifications.

“Even if this was indeed a Divine mandate, it could only have been to appease the needs of the people, as God is completely free of need.” – You are quite correct, the needs of the people were to receive the land that had been promised to them by G-d. What kind of a believer are you, that you would question G-d?

“The modern state of Israel was secured using methods labeled today as “terrorism.” And any justification that arises from a personal need will forever be tainted.” – In this statement, you have just denied the claim of all nations to this land, since all are interested in it for self interest.

The only difference between the Jewish nation, and any other, is that this particular land is tied up in the essence of Judaism. All Jews face Jerusalem when they pray. All Muslims face Mecca when they pray – and in doing so, turn their backs on Jerusalem. This point may seem unimportant, but how would Islam react if they were denied access to Mecca?

I’m sure that they would not be above “self interest.”

The Jews went (peacefully) many many years living and praying in Jerusalem. Even when it was partitioned and they were no longer able to do so, they accepted this decision. From 1948 until 1967, this was so. – I wonder, if denied Mecca, whether Islam would be so patient?

“But enough of the groups involved make the same mistake over and over again, which is to push for their own selfish ends.” – I agree completely.

“I wonder if this is why, according to orthodox Judaism, Israel is only to be established by the Messiah.” – According to which sect of orthodox Judaism? There are many, and many of then consider the modern day state of Israel to be the precursor to the coming of the Messiah.

There are also many that are branded by main stream Judaism as “anti Jewish” for want of a better description, because their words and actions put the lives of other Jews at risk.

“it is quite absurd to try to annihilate them because you can never succeed. You are paving a sure path to self-destruction which begins as the loss of your own soul. We may get away with a lot down here, but in the meeting with your Lord you surely will not. And if you played a part in covering up the truth, you are especially cursed.” – I agree, that the only way to solve this issue, is inclusive. Please see my earlier post on “reasonableness.”

I believe that we were put on this earth to overcome our differences and to be able to live together in peace, not just in the middle East, but in all regions.

I believe that every man should have the right to worship/not worship as he sees fit and that any system that would force one type of belief over the other is not acceptable.

I believe that the Messiah will come when we learn do do this. He will, of course, come anyway and if we have not learned this, his teachings will be painful for many.

The Jewish nation has survived over 3000 years since they left Egypt, they will still be here many years from now.

Am Yisrael Chai.

Gavriel says:

@akhenaten
“as i posted earlier, now all educated people know for a fact that the old testament bible is full of exaggerations & forgery ..and you can,t possibly build a state on such fragile basis ..not for long..”

1) “All educated people…” I consider myself to be highly educated and literate, your statement would tell me that this is not the case, check your facts before making such sweeping BS statements.

2) “Exaggerations and forgery” the “old testament” has been scrutinised by people that understand the language for thousands of years, going far beyond the simple story that is presented on the surface. The mystical aspect of the “old testament” is a coherent entity in itself and it could not be so, if the “old testament” were not coherent. Indeed, much far Eastern mysticism and also Sufiism share a common foundation with Kabbalah as it is known. (Not the version that has been popularised by Esther……er….Madonna)

3) The Jewish nation as it is today, is at least as old as it’s talmud,if I give cognisance to your arguments (which I don’t) That alone makes it easily as old as Christianity!

Since we know from history, that Judaism predates Christianity, therin lies the refutation of your “not for long!”

Again, please read Mark Twain, quoted for you in case you’re lazy or just couldn’t be bothered. If you choose to have issue with what he said, please take it up with his publisher.

“If the statistics are right, the Jews constitute but one quarter of one percent of the human race. It suggests a nebulous dim puff of stardust lost in the blaze of the Milky Way. Properly, the Jew ought hardly to be heard of; but he is heard of, has always been heard of. He is as prominent on the planet as any other people, and his importance is extravagantly out of proportion to the smallness of his bulk.

His contributions to the world’s list of great names in literature, science, art, music, finance, medicine and abstruse learning are very out of proportion to the weakness of his numbers. He has made a marvelous fight in this world in all ages; and has done it with his hands tied behind him. He could be vain of himself and be excused for it. The Egyptians, the Babylonians and the Persians rose, filled the planet with sound and splendour; then faded to dream-stuff and passed away: the Greeks and the Romans followed and made a vast noise, and they are gone; other peoples have sprung up and held their torch high for a time but it burned out, and they sit in twilight now, or have vanished.

The Jew saw them all, survived them all, and is now what he always was, exhibiting no decadence, no infirmities of age, no weakening of his parts, no slowing of his energies, no dulling of his alert and aggressive mind. All things are mortal but the Jew; all other forces pass, but he remains. What is the secret of his immortality?” – Mark Twain

Joseph says:

Akhenaton and others mix apples and oranges. Palazzi’s article describes Islamic tradition, which should be compared to the Jewish and Christian religious traditions and other Islamic interpretations.

Historical/archeological research is a different matter altogether. Such research includes new understandings as facts and theories are found and developed. There are conflicting schools and perceptions in the academic world and they all change with time. Some theories would deny that prophets Muhammad or Moses ever existed. So, arguing that because a certain scholar believes that some Bible stories are exaggerated or false has no meaning religiously. Academic research cannot prove or disprove the existence of G-d or make people stop believing. Some new research also claims that Quran is false. But again, these are just theories and research continues.

Historically and in the contemporary reality, both Jews and Arab belong to the Middle East. Jewish/Israelite history in Palestine and the region cannot be ignored and so the Arabic-Islamic. Israel is packed with Jewish refugees from Arab and Islamic countries including Palestine (Eretz-Yisrael) itself, it also includes many Muslim-Arab, Christian-Arab and Druze-Arab Israeli citizens. Israel’s “European” Jews are Middle-Eastern in their ancestry, genes, culture, religion and language. So there is no way around reaching peace.

Religiously, as shown by Palazzi, those who wish to have peace have enough tools at their disposal. We should all thank him and try to study more.

tabletcrap says:

if the arabs were having trouble transversing their own native language, what can modern archaeologist actually decipher and state the detailed and correct interpretation of these verses? they are juz islamophobia, domination, free masonaries and the end of the world is near. be prepared for judgement day.

Levi nur hambali says:

The enjoyment of the most desirable real man when he lives without knowing it, really is a fantasy sensation of death itself. though indeed the horrible specter of death becomes, because there are changes in the context of intervention death itself in human history.
(A~j~i)

Islam – Muslims, Jews – Israelites

I am not sure about all this, because at that time we are not yet born and its history is not our players. (Laughs)

Is this political?
or whether only the passions of men?

clear, history proves we are all human.

ie from the same descendants of Adam and Eve.

so, do not want us to hit and hit provocation doctrine simply because a relative truth.

evidence? our fellow human beings fight, fight and blame each other. when we believe in all the books. Holy Torah, the Holy Psalms, the Holy Bible and Holy Qur’an is a Book revealed by God through his noble messangers.

The Truth says:

I didn’t mean to be harsh with you, it was just that YouTube video was taking quotes and referring them to the future tense. However, these are clearly in the past tense. For example:

5:21 refers to Moses (peace be upon Him) pleading with the Israelites that they should enter the holy land, which Allah (SWT) has assigned to then, and turn not back ignominiously, for then will they be overthrown back to their own ruins and misery.

This is clearly in the past tense, time of Moses (peace be upon Him), and if anything he is warning them of the expulsion which was done by the Romans. The ignominy of it all is how Judea allowed itself to be a puppet of the Romans, committing many sins in the Holy Land, which led to the very humiliating expulsion where they had no say in.
17:104, which also appears in the video, talks about Allah (SWT) saying to the Jews to dwell in the Holy Land securely, but by the time of the second warning they will be gathered into a mingled crowed.
To understand what this means, we need to know what where these two warnings? Ok if we look at 17:5, the first warning was when the Babylonians expelled the Jews and put them into bondage, this was a punishment for the sins if they cause mischief (17:4) but where saved by Cyrus the Great of Persia.

17:7, when the second warning came, due to the rejection of the Messiah Jesus and messenger John, continual sinful and forbidden acts in Jerusalem, tyranny etc. and they were kicked out by Titus in 70AD.

This idea that Allah is a Zionist is a Zionists funded idea from US, and the vast majority don’t believe in this LIE!

The Truth says:

the fact that im the only muslim here is a testement to how supported (not) this (false) idea is.

As a long time born-again Christian who loves the Jewish peoples, I can only reply that I read somewhere recently that the Quran (which I have read) claims that followers of Islam have permission to lie if they are being forced to convert to another religion, OR if it suits their purposes in dealing with those who are non-believers in Islam.

Mohannad says:

The Palestinians (Jews, Christian & Muslims) have lived in harmony before the year 1946. Whether the temples or the churches or the mosques should or should not exist, what does this has to do with invading the land of Palestine ((massacring the people of the land, expelling the rest into neighboring country … etc)) by the Jews of the world, Zionists, backed up by the U.S.A? did the Torah say kill others so you can live in their homes? is this ethical? what moral system does the Zionists have, if any?

Palestine is for Palestinians (Jews, Christians and Muslims) BUT it is NOT the homeland for the Poland Jew or the German Jew or the American Jew …. go back to yr country and leave Palestine to Palestinians.

Renato says:

@Mohannad: stop being anti-Semite.
There were lots of Jews in Eretz Yisrael by 1946 already. The proposal was “divide the English-ruled land in 2 independent countries”, a proposal similar to the one made in India/Pakistan. 1 country for each people. You see, the land was not in the hands of the PalArabs, it was in the hands of the British Empire (previously Ottoman Empire, previously Roman Empire, etc.). As long as I know, there was never an independent Palestinian kingdom, correct me if I’m wrong. There were Jewish and Israeli kings before, well documented not only in the Bible and the Qur’an, but in other ancient documents. Arabs rejected the plan. The Mufti of Jerusalem said “I’d rather see Palestine as a wasteland than divide it with Jews!”. So, for all practical purposes, it was the Arabs who started the war. And, as a Brazilian general recently said, the one who starts the war can’t feel sorry for the ensuing pain. If, almost 70 years ago, the Arabs had accepted the peace proposal, everyone would today be happy at home.

Golda Meir put it that way: “Peace is impossible until the Palestinians love their children more than they hate ours”. Perfect and simple.

“Palestine is for Palestinians (Jews, Christians and Muslims) BUT it is NOT the homeland for the Poland Jew or the German Jew or the American Jew” is very much anti-Zionist. People should live where they want to. Jews want to live in Israel for a myriad of reasons, the main one is the historical connection to the land, as their ancestors came from there. There are tens of Muslim nations in the ME, why can’t a Jewish nation flourish there?

As an early poster put it, “J’lem was unavailable to Jews (and every non-Muslim, for that matter) for 20 years or more”. Would you Muslims accept so paciently Mecca unavailable for even 1 week? I doubt so.

As Muslims from Hamas and alike repeat always, “We love death as you love life”. So much for peaceful people.

Am Yisrael Chai.

Many landlords will want to verify your references. Cellphone forward to alert potential references, including your former landlord, that they could receive a call. Gather some data to current to landlords/leasing brokers ? they’ll most likely ask for it, anyway. This should embrace a credit score test, a resume and pay stubs or tax returns.

What about the sound Hadith found in the famous book called reyadusalliheen by imam anawawi
Stating that the Jews will hide behind the bushes ( maybe trees or rocks) and Allah will allow those trees to speak and say ” o Muslim there is a Jew behind me come and kill him” this is due to the fact that they will be supporting the Antichrist in the last days. Look it up your self if u don’t believe

Anyone who believes Allah is a zionest is a blasphemer

If we refer to some Muslim religious books (or may be some hadith books), it says that Hijaz (now under Kingdom of Saudi Arabia)at many times had been under controlled of Roman & Persia. If we based base on the books, either Greece & Iran should have forwarded to the ICJ to claim their sovereignty of the area from Kingdom of Saudi. If we base on history, Utsmaniyah / Abbasid would also legitimate to bring the matter to the ICJ. What would the Saud families’ reaction on this? In reality, once a kingdom had been defeated, you cannot just go to the ICJ for a trial. BUT You have to wage another war to claim your sovereignty.

Same goes to Spain, Muslim ummah accepts that the sovereignty used to be under their control, but now it is no longer belongs to them.

Therefore, it is unless to refer to many religious / history books, if you can just deduce the conclusion from basic reasoning skill.

I might agree with some Syeikh Palazzi’s works on Islam, but on this matter I choose to differ.

Mattityahu ben Noach says:

The Muslims who claim that Ashkenazi Jews are not Benei Israel (descendants of Jacob/Israel) have a dilemma, it seems to me. Their argument is that Those European Jews are not really Jews because they are converts rather than blood descendants of Jacob.
That’s not true; the research into the Kohen Gene prov at LEAST that the Levites ARE descended from Jacob.
http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/biology/b103/f03/web2/tliben.html
To be a convert is to accept the terms of the religion into which one is converting, and foresaking all other religions. Judaism teaches that converts WILL be heirs to the Promise made to Israel of the Holy Land!
But even if the Muslim claim the Jews are not Israel WERE literally true, the fact remains, even by Muslim assertions of the reality of the Kuzaris, that they all converted to Judaism centuries ago and had thir own nation in what is now Turkey.
If Muslims want to claim converts to a religion are not really heirs to the terms of the Covenant, they MUST understand their position is that converts (or “reverts”) to Islam ARE NOT REAL MUSLIMS! That means many “Muslims” are just fooling themselves, and the Muslim’c claim to “millions of Muslims world-wide” are false! The Muslm’s claim that converts are not really members of a Promise from Allah (or God as Jews call the One True Deity), means there are really only a handful of “real” uslims in the world, and they’re mostly in Arabia, NOT the US or any of the European or Southeast Asian lands (such as the Philipine Islands)!

Mattityahu ben Noach says:

The above means Muslims who claim converts to Judaism are not Jews must agree that the only true Muslims are descendants of Mohammad; ALL other so-called “Muslims” are converts or the descendants of converts.
Muslim rosters go from “millions” to three or four; not three or four million, nor three or four thousand, nor three or four hundred, but three or four PEOPLE!
Nobody else on Earth is a “real” muslim!

Indreed Cold says:

Hi Guys, what does Allah calls the murder of 1200 person (60% of them women and children) in less than two weeks?

(by the way if Allah is Zionist, then I am a Satan worshipper, if any Zionist went to heaven, I will sprint to hell)

cahaya petunjuk says:

Zionist is inhuman…they don’t deserve to have even a piece of land…they killed palestinians brutally even the babies that were newly born…they killed pregnant women, children who just merely <5 years old without feeling of mercy…so why are you so anguish saying that they deserve to have the right?
now,they are so bold to demolish masjidil aqsa? it is a prove that they are the army of al-masih ad-dajjal laknatullah which means his arrival is getting near and the end of the day will come sooner than we thought…
the main reason why they killed women and children is because they afraid of the newborn child named Muhammad, the last descendent of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) among the palestinians or we known as Imam Mahdi… every child whose name is Muhammad will be killed unhesitantly…
Allah is zionist? don't make a joke…
Allah has no gender, more than that having a race is totally ridiculous..just like what they say Allah has the infinite way of thinking, and that Allah has put the best guidance to all human being by putting several so that we will not be in the wrong way…to be someone with a noble and purest personality is by obeying Him and worship Him because He is the One who create us….
i believe islam is my only one true faith because i've seen a lot of men who have the greatest faith in Allah died in the most wonderful way..they died in broad smile and the blood is still fresh even after dying for many hours…their face never turn blue…very different than those who disbelief in Allah… jihadians never die even after tasting the death…if they were wrong, don't they should be suffering in dying because their false faith and the god must give them the greatest punishment…
Indeed the truth is some muslims are retard because they don't practice what they've learned in islam and some may use the knowledge in the wrong way by manipulating truth…Everything is indeed true that all already happened like what've been mentioned in Quran…

cahaya, in normal circumstances i wouldn’t even bother with people like you, but I feel other people may get this message as well so it is probably worth it.
your vision is so obstructed by hatered that you cannot see even when proofs from the holy book are laid in front of your eyes.
you have to go back to the history, the point where it all begun, israel and the arab-israel issue and ask yourself one question: when the jews were persecuted and killed in so many palces around the planet why didn’t we, arab, offer them refuge, after all we are the closest that could be to them, we know that the land of palestine was theirs before they got exiled by the romans besides we had enough land to go by, as a a matter of fact it is still laying empty in so many other areas of the arab land.
thousands jews died in russia and poland befor the War and million more died during it . so why did we close the doors on our cousins. they just wanted a homeland, the most basic human right.
the reason is greed, only greed we just didn’t want to share… what a wasted oppurtunity… may allah the merciful forgive us guides us to be generous and charitable.
salam

Firstly, “bani Isra’il” isn’t synonymous with “yahud”, otherwise Jesus would’ve been a “yahudi”. According to the Qur’an, in the time of Moses, the “bani Isra’il” were Muslims, even.

Secondly, it doesn’t make a difference if somebody found a phrase in the Holy Qur’an claiming Jewish sovereignty over Israel. My faith as a Muslim tells me displacements of thousands of people from their land is wrong. My instinct as a human being tells me stealing and killing for the sake of more stealing is wrong. Sovereignty at the expense of innocent lives, happiness, and freedom is most definitely not prescribed in Islam; it’s a crime and it matters shit what religion is committing it.

Lo, the belief is that there is no proof it was their land, therefore no one was displaced off their land. If i owned a house, then rented it to you or you were a squatter than I came back and asked you to move, it makes sense. Killing and stealing is wrong, yes it is. So why the hell is Hammas supported and why are some Palestinians hurting one another in Gaza? Judiasim doesn’t support stealing or Killing either. Not a single religion does. It’s people who are supposed to decipher text and apply it to our generation, our modern times. You can put a Muslim and a Jew in one room, give them the exact same phrase from the Torah or Quran and they will understand it differently, just like if you take any other two people, then they will use it and act on it differently according to their own needs.

tanvir says:

jewish claim to jerusalem and the land of israel is a fullfillment of islamic prophecy-there should be no doubt about it. if the arabs can rule the deserts of arabia jews can rule the land of cannan.no one denies that the occupation of arabs in makkah and madina then why should one deny the ocuppation of jews in jerusalem?since the time of prophet MUHAMMAD[PBUH] arabs have always controlled makkah and madina with full power but jews got to only see their holy land after 2000 years of exile. and now that they are coming to the land[which ALLAH have assigned to them] these pseudo arabs wants to stop them by saying jews are ALLAH’S cursed creation and should be completely eliminated. as a true muslim i completely disagree with this claim. jews have every right to drink the water of jerusalem which moses told them to do 4000 years ago. and if you say jews are cursed then you are inevitably saying that prophet MOSES[pbuh] was cursed!!!!. he was a jew and a muslim and so HOLY QURAN rightly says jews are rightful owner of israel.Just how many land does arabs need to fill their belly? they got makkah and madina and controls the temple mount area. but their greed is far more. and for this greedness ALLAH’s wrath will bring doom to them. they must accept the jewish sovereighnity over israel. and i say this as a muslim not as a jew. and muslim can be anyone whether he is a jew or arab or white or black….

After
reading the article,i felt it is written by an enemy of islam(yahudi agent)
&
allah knows best

Randolph says:

Syed, Go READ the verses in the Quran yourself!………MORON!

@ Sayed
i agree with you…

Michael says:

It is stretching it to say that the second time was not ended with the destruction of the temple in 70 AD. Remember that these are in the context of what the prophets said to Bani Israel in the past. Although you could say it was under Roman control, the Jews did live there during the time period, and no longer lived there after the incident of 70 AD. Surah 17:7 makes it clear that the second destruction was past tense:
17:7 “If ye do good, ye do good for your own souls, and if ye do evil, it is for them. So, when the time for the second came to ravage you, and to enter the Temple even as they entered it the first time, and to lay waste all that they conquered with an utter wasting.”

When the second time CAME. It also makes it clearer that it happened just like the first time.

Quite clearly you are grasping at straws, because there are no further prophecies to promise the land to the Jews in the Qur’an.

determined says:

this pallazi thinks that judaism and zionism is same.infact zionism is exactly the opposite.the Torah clearly states that the jews cannot enter the holy land until the coming of messiah before the day of judgement.the advent of political zionism in the early 20th century resulted the return of jewish diaspora after 2000 yrs.it was done by military forces and political leaders who did not,in the remotest sense,followed the torah.they forcibly got israelite jews,who lived peacefully with muslims,back to jerusalem but they had no intention of doing it.the zionists sought to make a state that would have secular laws and the jews will be the citizens.Just imagine!!jews,who according to the torah should always obey the laws of Allah intorah,were now forcibly following the law of a state ‘israel’whose intentions were that the secular laws are greater than laws of Allah Almighty!!!ISRAEL since its inception has continued to kill the innocent palestine people.they also tortured thousands of anti-zionist jews(i.e neturei karta)simply because they rebelled against the idea that jews should rule over palestine without the coming of the messiah.THIS ACT IS A MAJOR CONTRADICTION IN THE TORAH.jews were told that they should remain in exile and continue to obey Allah,do righteous conduct with muslims and christians.if they follow it then Allah promised that they will certainly be placed in the ranks of righteous in the day of judgemnt.Allah says it in the Quran Sura Al-Imran ayat 113-115.But these satanic zionists dont care.they want rule over the holy land and will destroy anything that opposes it.they broke the 2000 year peace between jews and muslims and have done the most heinous of sins like-enabling prostitution and homosexualism in jerusalem.On the day of judgement they will be sent to hellest of Hell for their mighty Wickedness.I urge sheikh palazzi to visit the website http://www.nkusa.org the site for anti-zionist jews.JUDAISM,CHRISTIANITY and ISLAM are all against zionism.

determined says:

A true jew who obeys the law of Torah can never fall into the evil tentacles of Zionism.zionist drive palestinian people out of their home,consume riba,make pork halal,enable gambling,zina and homosexualism.are these things allowed in the Torah and Quran-never!!!!!ALLAH ALMIGHTY WILL INFLICT SUCH PUNISHMENTS ON THESE ZIONISTS THAT THE HELL FIRE IS NOT ENOUGH FOR THEM!!!!!!!!!let all the monthiestic jews,christians and muslims unite together and bring an end to the evil zionism. Zionist=satanist=benjamin netanyahu

determined says:

its my utmost request to sheikh pallazi that please stop writing articles for the evil zionists but rather write articles for the true jewish websites.How can Israel be a jewish state when it allows homosexualism and prostitution?It is strictly prohibited in Torah.so without a shadow of a doubt-israel is a secular state which doesnot follow any laws of Torah.i would like to challenge anyone who says israel is a jewish state.do you really think benjamin netanyahu believes in God and follows the Laws of Torah?if he did then he would have surely not allowed these thousands of Russian girls to come to Tel Aviv working in day and night shifts and earning money by sexual atrocities.I am asking sheikh pallazi-in which verses of Torah is prostitution allowed?in which verses does the killing of thousands of palestinians are allowed?it is said in Torah clearly that jews cannot rule over israel until the messiah comes who will peacefully gather all the jews from exile and then conquer as a just ruler and all the mankind shall believe in One God.Is benjamin netanyahu the messiah who himself defies the laws of God?therefore I request Mr Pallazi to read the Torah,Bible and Quran thouroughly.Those Jews who strictly follow the Laws of Torah and remains in exile but lives with muslims and christians are the jews who will have peace hereafter.As Allah says in the Quran in Surah AL IMRAN AYAT 199-’And there are,certainly,among the People of the Book(jews and christians),those who believe in God,in the revelation given to you,and in the revelation given to them(Torah and Injeel),bowing in humility to God:They will not sell the Signs of God for a miserable gain!For them is their reward with their Lord,and God is swift in account.’the righteous jews who believe in God are mostly non zionists.zionists themselves makes mockery with the Torah claiming that it is an old book filled with folklore stories!they are destined for eternal hellfire!good jews will join with muslims in the heaven….

Real philistines – palestines was ancient greeks. They were indo-europeans of pelasgian tribe.

‘Palestinians’ are the same as israeli arabs. There alsou are other arab groups like druzes and bedaui. But yemenite jews are half arabs.

Religious ultra extremists, who say judaism is against zionism are just backward wanabe iranian traitors of jewish cause. Don’t forget that hasidism came out of underdeveloped ukrainian villages.

At least Israel don’t kill its own arab citizens, as do Syria. Alsou there were number of arab christians, but only these living in Israel are in safe. Yasir Arafat regime had almoust liquidated once vibrant arab christian minority of Palestine. In Israel minorities are protected, yeah alsou homosexualists even if torah stands against homosexuality. It is called civil society. That is western civilisation;)

Psysword says:

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lanardun says:

The zionazi fake sheikh “Abdul Hadi Palazzi” is hereby
also exposed as a fake “professor” and “lecturer” at
his mythical “University of Velletri”.

Pls share with others..

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bewleyupdates/message/4074

Trish94903 says:

No, we didn’t. Throughout the 1800s and early 1900s, there were pogroms against Jews where defenseless Jews in places like Safed and Hebron were slaughtered. Throughout the 1930s and early 1940s, Arab forces such as the Mufti’s gangs killed Jews and also killed Palestinians who wanted to co-exist. Bedouin tribes, paid by the Saudis, the Hashemites and Egyptians, attacked and killed Jewish farmers and their families in the south. There was no harmony, and there came a two-state solution because Jews were not safe from extremist murders.

One must think very highly of oneself to post things under the screen name “truth.”

In any case, this sheikh is an ultraconservative wingnut. I don’t know what his deal is.

You just explain why Sheikh Abdul Hadi Palazzi is right on his Historical methodology of the 3 monotheistic believes. Muslims now control one third of global earth. So why they are permitted by you to infiltrate and conquer the land of the Jews?

You just explain why Sheikh Abdul Hadi Palazzi is right on his Historical methodology of the 3 monotheistic believes view. Muslims now control one third of global earth. So why they are permitted by you to infiltrate and conquer the land of the Jews? You have o remember that Jews always sit in the land of Israel for the last 3600 years, 2300 before Islam was created by Nabbi Muhammad. When the Arab Muslims came and conquered the Holy Land they have conquered also the Jews who lived their at their soil. Is that makes this conquer justified by you?

Muslims Chased and killed Jews through out all the Muslim history. But is can’t be equal what’s so ever, to the persecution of the Jews under Christianity mainly through the last 1000 years. What we can be sure is that Jews were never persecuted others while they were sovereign to their selves in the last 2000 years.

The difference among Judaism and Islam/Christianity is that Jews never thought, taught and acted to dominate the world, contrary to Islam and Christianity that see themselves as the one and only true believe in that world. That’s why Islam and Christianity were violent religions contrary to peaceful Judaism. The Antisemitic conspirators are trying very hard to turn around that fact and to blame the Jews with the Muslims and Christians faults.

1- Quran, Surah Bani Isra’il (Children of Israel), verses 1-7, does not mention the word Jerusalem because it does not exist in Arabic but as Qudes/ Quds. Al Aqsa means ( the furtherest ). Also mentions nothing about it being given to children of Israel.

2- The first Beit EL/ Beit Allah is not Solomon’s Temple but the Kaaba according to Islam. And Islam believes Abraham the Habir was in Arabia with is family , and the stone that he laid his head on is the Black stone of the Kaaba, which is logic seeing he cannot lay his head on a massive stone to sleep unless he was standing.
The floating stone is the one Mohammad stepped on to ascend to heaven.not where Jacob laid his head ans mentions nothing about it being in Jerusalem

3- Surah of Jonah, verse 93, does not mention the name of the settlement lt alone country which Beni Israel were Given. It says east and west , and considering they were leaving Egypt it cannot be Canaan because that is north. It all fits with Arabia which is the wilderness they settled for 40 yrs. Where did Jordan come from !?

4- Surah al Maidah (the Table), verse 21, does not again say Jerusalem neither Canaan but says Holy Land and to Islam that is Arabia and also in Bible

What God promised to Abraham was applied to all his seed including the nymerous Arabs via Ishmael, And God does not lie as his promise did come true and all the land from Iraq to Egypt is ARAB

Sheik Pallazio if he was born to a Muslim convert father , he would not have given him a Christian name ” Massimo” it never happens, his father may have his christian name because he was not born a Muslim. He does not give his mother’s surname neither her hometown to be checked. He is a fake and a paid zionist who has done his homework well

what’s wrong with Zionism? such is your anipathy that you don’t even start the word with a capital letter!

amir says:

The holy Quran say the earth belong to god only.All man has the right of living in or migration to any earth they want. Anyone has no right to deport the owners of a land from their homeland as well as anyone has no right to deport the refugees and guests from living in a new land.The sons of Abraham must stop their historical war for owning the holy land with deporting their brothers from there. They can exist together n peace in this land in a united nation is named as Abraham united nation and Abraham united state.

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