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NY Times, MSNBC Whitewash BDS

BDS opposes a two-state solution, but you wouldn’t know it from the media

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As you’ve no doubt heard, a controversial panel about the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions movement (BDS) against Israel is set to take place tomorrow at Brooklyn College. Because the event received the sponsorship of the college’s political science department, it has evoked harsh criticism from prominent Jewish intellectuals and New York City elected officials, some of whom have called for the panel to be cancelled, or for the political science department to withdraw its imprimatur.

This week, both MSNBC’s Up with Chris Hayes and the New York Times editorial board publicly defended the panel’s right to convene and the political science department’s right to sponsor it. I happen to agree with their conclusions, if not necessarily their rationales. But in introducing the BDS movement to their audiences, both of these respected media outlets dramatically misrepresented its stated aims and implicit goals, whitewashing the movement’s radicalism.

Here’s how Hayes opened his segment:

A group of Brooklyn College students organized an event to discuss the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions movement, which is an attempt by activists here and around to world to pressure Israel to end its settlements and occupation through organized boycotts, international sanctions and divestments modeled on those directed at South Africa during apartheid.

Yesterday, the New York Times editorial board offered a similar characterization in defending the panel, claiming it would feature “two speakers who support an international boycott to force Israel to end its occupation of the Palestinian territories.” The only problem here is that this is not, in fact, the entirety of what the BDS movement advocates. Don’t take it from me—just read their website.

On its “Call for BDS” page, the movement outlines three official goals for boycotts, divestment and sanctions against Israel. The first is the one acknowledged by Hayes and the Times: “Ending its [Israel’s] occupation and colonization of all Arab lands and dismantling the Wall.” The second: “Recognizing the fundamental rights of the Arab-Palestinian citizens of Israel to full equality.”

And then there’s the third: “Respecting, protecting and promoting the rights of Palestinian refugees to return to their homes and properties as stipulated in UN resolution 194.”

This radical goal goes completely unmentioned by both Hayes and the Times, giving their audiences the false impression that the BDS movement merely seeks a non-violent way to end Israeli occupation and implement a two-state solution. But in fact, BDS’s own materials and proponents oppose the very existence of the State of Israel as a Jewish state, and demand the return of 5 million Palestinians to the country, which would effectively abrogate its Jewish character.

This is antithetical to the two-state solution, the only solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict accepted by majorities on both sides and the international community. As President Obama has put it, “if we’re going to achieve a two-state solution … the Palestinians are going to have to recognize that the right of return as they’ve understood it historically would extinguish Israel as a Jewish state, and that’s not an option.”

And you don’t have to be Alan Dershowitz to recognize that the BDS movement seeks the elimination of the world’s only Jewish state—or even J Street, which vehemently opposes it. Try Norman Finkelstein, no one’s idea of Israel’s best friend, who has spelled out the extremism of the BDS movement and forcefully rejected it. In a recorded interview worth watching in full, Finkelstein explains:

We have to be honest, and I loathe the disingenuous. They [BDS] don’t want Israel. They think they are being very clever. They call it their three tier: We want the end of the occupation, the right of return, and we want equal rights for Arabs in Israel. And they think they are very clever because they know the result of implementing all three is what, what is the result? You know and I know what the result is: there’s no Israel!

A general principle: when Alan Dershowitz and Norman Finkelstein manage to agree on something, it’s probably true. Like all advocates of a peace accord between Israel and the Palestinians, they understand that the BDS movement is actively undermining such reconciliation.

As the mirror version of the right-wing Greater Israel movement which denies the Palestinian right to self-determination, BDS seeks a one-state solution that denies the Jewish right to self-determination. Indeed, Omar Barghouti, one of the Brooklyn BDS panelists, is on record saying that an end to occupation and settlement would not end the call for BDS, that he opposes the two-state solution, and that the right of return is the movement’s “foremost demand.” As he put it in 2001, Israel “was Palestine, and there is no reason why it should not be renamed Palestine.”

Chris Hayes and the New York Times are right to defend the Brooklyn College panel and call for open debate over the merits of BDS. But that conversation starts with correctly acknowledging what the movement actually believes, rather than misrepresenting it as something far less extreme than it is.

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UPDATE: Chris Hayes, being a mensch, has acknowledged that he should have noted the more radical elements of the BDS agenda in his segment. Still no word from the New York Times editorial board, but we will keep you posted.

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Cool_Romeo says:

Another good start would be to stop referring to it as “return.” (“return of 5 million Palestinians to the country”)

A scant few of those Palestinians have ever been to Israel.

Chris Hayes exemplifies that astute maxim of Jon Chait’s that conservatives are deaf to racist subtexts while liberals are deaf to antisemitic ones.

Poupic says:

First they should be asked why are they so concerned about Israel and not Cyprus? Cyprus in fact was invaded by Turkey. Greek citizen of Cyprus cleansed out of North Cyprus and replaced by imported Turks. When we are on the subject of cleansing out people, the Jews were cleansed out of Judea and Samaria after John Glub AKA Glubb Pasha put up a medieval siege on Jerusalem then divided the then mostly Jewish city into part of it a Transjordanian land grab. By the way Arabs who did not listen to the Arab high command and leave in 1948 are full citizen of Israel with all the rights including being elected to the Knesseth or even be a judge in the Israeli Supreme court. “The West Bank” and “The Palestinians” are two inventions of the 1960’s. Judea and Samaria have a 3 millennia history and are in fact the heartland of the Jewish nation. “The Palestinians” are Arab refugees who were never absorbed by their supposed brothers who caused them to be refugees when they attempted the first time to destroy Israel.

ginzy1 says:

And why, pray tell, are you surprised at MSNBC & the NY Times? Do you actually have any expectation of intellectual honesty from either of these media rags (and their fellow travellers for that matter like NPR, the BBC, the Guardian, the Independent, the Nation, and increasingly I fear The New Republic, etc. etc. etc.)?

hg

J’lem / Efrata

I would add that people should stop mischaracterizing the event as a “discussion” of BDS. Flyers for the event make it sound more like a recruitment event. Brooklyn College Students for Justice in Palestine describes it thus: “Brooklyn College Students for Justice in Palestine presents BDS
(Boycotts, Divestment, Sanctions) Movement for Palestinian Rights.

A strategy that allows people of conscience to play an effective role in the Palestinian struggle for justice.

Join
us for a lecture with Judith Butler and Omar Barghouti on the
importance of BDS in helping END Israeli apartheid and the illegal
occupation of Palestine.”

Glenn Greenwald, a leading defender of the event, defends it this way: “why shouldn’t advocates of a movement be able to gather at an event to
debate tactics and strategies without having someone there who objects
to the movement itself?”

So the political science department isn’t sponsoring an academic gathering or discussion; they are sponsoring something between a recruitment event and strategy session for a movement that denies effectively Israel’s right to exist.

Radicalism?

Denial ain’t a river in Egypt.

6cmzumquadrat says:

2 things:

1. How is bringing Israel in line with its obligation under Intl. Law ‘radical’? Do you see why many of us simply can’t take your line of thinking seriously?

2. You’ve ignored a key point, which is that Jewish self-determination cannot come at the cost of Palestinian self-determination. That is to say, it cannot be a zero sum game, where Jews are able to exercise their definition of self-determination–which seems to include the brutal occupation of Palestinian territory and civil life as well as the total economic and military domination of the Gaza strip–and Palestinians are denied their right to self-determination full stop. That is the current situation. So please, let’s not mystify the reality of the situation; what we have now IS a one state ‘solution,’ whereby Israel has a military, administrative, and economic stranglehold on both Israeli territory AND occupied Palestinian territory.

Palestinian civil society has every right to take non-violent action to end this horrendous miscarriage of justice. It has every right to demand that Israel come into compliance with Int’l law. That such a suggestion is considered radical by the author is incredible.

6cmzumquadrat says:

“A scant few of those Palestinians have ever been to Israel.”

Ask yourself why that might be…

Cool_Romeo says:

OK, I’ve asked myself and here’s my answer:

They weren’t born on territory in Israel and they’ve never resided there. They are therefore in no way “refugees” from that territory as that term has been used in every other circumstance throughout history.

6cmzumquadrat says:

There are plenty of Palestinian families with deeds and keys to properties inside of Israel. The fact that their children and grandchildren have never set foot in Israel as a result of their forced expulsion is at the heart of the issue.

6cmzumquadrat says:

And for the record, if you think that the BDS position on Right of Return is insidious, you do not believe in a two-state solution, because any discussion on such a solution would require a frank discussion on Resolution 194 and the Right of Return.

That doesn’t mean that Right of Return will be granted to all Palestinians displaced from their homes and made refugees will be allowed to return, but it certainly means that “respecting, protecting and promoting the rights of Palestinian refugees to return to their homes and properties as stipulated in UN resolution 194,” is not at all radical, it is a baseline of discussion for a future agreement. The efforts to make it something insidious are disgusting and show just how little regard many of the hardliners within the pro-Israel camp have for an actual two-state solution.

Doremus says:

When South Africa dumped apartheid into the dustbin of history did it cease to exist? Was it annihilated? Why is a nation of all of its people the moral standard for every country =except= Israel? Why is Jewish supremacy and ethnocracy acceptable?
Such hypocrisy, especially among so-called progressives

Ed Frias says:

Lets see who’s about apartheid and racism.
There are 8500 Jews living in the 22 Arab countries, while their are 1.5 million Palestinians in Israel.
Jews are barred from living in every Arab country, except a few thousand Jews who live in Morocco and Tunisia.
Jews wants to leave Tunisia with an Islamist government in power.
I should remind people, two of the Top Tunisian clerics 2 months ago called Jews Apes and for their mass killing.
Go to google and search for,
Tunisian Cleric Al-Suhayli Calls the Jews Apes, Prays for Allah to Annihilate Them

Ed Frias says:

The 48 war was the was the result of the Palestinians together with their Arab allies to perform ethnic cleansing on the Jews and their failure to complete it.
Every single Jew in the parts of the Mandate seized by the Arabs was expelled from their homes. No exceptions. They even dynamited the entire ancient Jewish quarter of the Old City of Jerusalem in an attempt to wipe out the history of Jewish residence there. They also made it illegal for a Jew to live in the areas of the former Mandate that they controlled, including East Jerusalem, West Bank, Gaza and Jordan.
850,000 Jews were also forced from the Arab countries.
After the 5 Arab armies attacked Israel in 48,
Haj Amin Al Husseini stated: I declare a holy war, my muslim brothers! Murder the Jews! Murder them all!
The Arab League Secretary, General Azzam Pasha declared “a holy war. He said, “This will be a war of extermination and a momentous massacre which will be spoken of like the Mongolian massacres and the Crusades.

Ed Frias says:

The Palestinians have nothing to do with the name Palestine.
The name Palestine is named after the Philistines, not the Palestinians or any Arab group.
The name Palestine was applied by the Romans to eliminate the name Israel.
It was certainly not directed or bestowed to the Arabs in this area.
The Philistines were from Crete and came to Israel 3000 years ago and were not Arabs or Muslims. Delilah and Goliath were Philistines. (Philistines died out.)
Philistine is the name the Romans renamed Israel as a chagrin against the Jews.
Yassir Arafat was not a Philistine, but an ARAB born in Egypt. Philistine originates from the Hebrew verb Palash, which means to invade. So the Arabs who started to call themselves Palestinians in the late 60′s are invaders and they want to create an Invadia state.

Ed Frias says:

There was never in history any state called Palestine governed by Palestinians.
Tell us Jonathan Marks when did it ever belong to Palestinians? Answer Never. It was never a Pal land to begin with, so your question is invalid. The Palestinians never governed or controlled any land before 1993. To make it simple, please tell me one Palestinian President before 1948? Keep thinking. The Palestinians want a capital, which they never had, in a country that never existed.

Ed Frias says:

All Arabs come from Saudi Arabia. That is there state.
Jews come from Israel. That is there state.
Israel accepted the 23 state solution.
22 states for the Arabs and 1 state for the Jews.

Go read HAMAS’ charter and ask yourself how long Jews would last in a country that was governed by such an organization.

Ed Frias says:

By the way, how many Muslims have been killed by Muslims this week in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Bahrain, Lebanon, Somalia, Yemen? How many have been killed by Jews? Numbers please.

Palestinians should get one thing into their heads: the world does not revolve around them. They share the blame for their situation, because they always wanted everything and never wanted to compromise. First and foremost that NOBODY, and least Israel owes them anything.

Ed Frias says:

ISRAEL which is defending itself against Pan-Arabism, Arab imperialism and Arabization of the Middle East – that is the “problem you don’t like.

The real problem is global Arab/Moslem insistence to spread hate, violence, wars, terrorism, lies, false accusations against Jews and reducing Jews to subhumans or second class citizens – slaves or servants – without any human rights.

When you have Palestinian leaders teaching their people, If their are 10 Jews and you kill 6 of them, how many Jews are Left?
When you have these same wicked leaders telling their people that Jews are the sons of Pigs and Apes.
When you have Palestinian Mufti’s teaching in Mosques that all Jews must be exterminated, are we shocked when Palestinians celebrate butchering Jews.

Opposing Arab colonialism and Muslim theocracy, oppression of women and non-Muslims, and supporting the free and democratic state of Israel are progressive positions.

Arabs CANNOT make peace with Israel. Without Israel to blame for all the death, poverty, destruction, misery and oppression across Islam, who will the Islamic people blame?
Wait, they’ll blame the Mossad Shark, Mossad Vulture, the 4000 Jews who didn’t show up at the World Trade Center, and the new crazy Arab theory that Bugs Bunny doesn’t like Muslims.

If only the Arab could put himself in the 21st century.
Even the 19th century would be an improvement.

Ed Frias says:

Hamas and the PLO derive their legitimacy by killing Israeli secretaries and high schoolers.

Virtually all of the Palestinians killed during these past 2 years were suicide bombers, terrorists killed in gun battles, dissidents lynched by fellow Arabs for their beliefs, women and children used as human shields or foils by their “brave fighters” – and yes, dozens of people who were caught in the line of fire.
Few recall that when Israel began using aircraft to destroy terrorist facilities (following the massacre of Jewish shoppers at a Netanya mall) the Jews actually publicized the targets in advance, in order to minimize Arab civilian casualties.

Every morning, at least one Palestinian wakes up with a smile and the thought, “I’m going to murder some Jews today.” They strap on explosive belts and guns, and search out any soft target they can find – a city bus, a baby, a student, a jogger. Israelis do not wake up in the morning and set out to murder Arabs. In rare instances when a Jew actually injures or kills a Palestinian, he is arrested and prosecuted. Contrast this with the Arab hero who shoots a Jewish baby. This “martyr of the Terrorstinians” will be eulogized by Hamas and Fatah, his family made rich and his picture proudly displayed throughout the Arab world.

The Palestinians have raised an entire generation to believe that the highest aspiration in life is to kill Jews. The Palestinians are engaged in an unremitting campaign of targetted murder of women and children. When the Palestinians massacre Israeli school children on buses, and babies in baby carriages, they celebrate. They have raised an entire generation to believe that the the highest cultural and religious value is the massacre of Jews. Through the Arabs hate, an entire generation has lost the capacity for humanity.

unroar says:

I’m not big into the whole Israel-Palestine debate, but would someone explain to me why it is “radical” to want the return of Palestinians that were kicked out of their houses. Or at least give them some compensation for their lost property?

herbcaen says:

I call upon the New York State legislature to review the tax exempt status of Brooklyn “College” since they have now become a foreign lobby

A hyperbolic, sick and twisted rendering of history. False in most every “fact.”

yevka, let me respond to the lies of Max Blumenthal.

This is the same Max Blumenthal who tried to say a Thai worker massacred the Fogel family in Itamar 2 years ago.
http://mondoweiss.net/2011/03/after-itamar-exploring-the-cynical-logic-that-makes-everyone-a-target.html

Even after it became known that a Palestinian committed the massacre, Blumenthal made excuses for this Arab terrorist.
The man is a sicko who turns a blind eye to the Palestinians genocidal media against Israel.

As Caroline Glick said, The fact that the Palestinians from Fatah and Hamas alike are Jew-hating racists should surprise no one who has been paying a modicum of attention to the Palestinian media and general culture. Since the PA was established in 1994 in the framework of the peace process between Israel and the PLO, it has used the media organs, schools and mosques it controls to spew out a constant flow of anti-Semitic propaganda. Much of the Jew-hating bile is indistinguishable from anti-Jewish propaganda published by the Nazis.

yevka, let me also respond to Blumenthal’s lies about Israeli East Jerusalem.

Jerusalem has had a Jewish population majority since the late 1850s – that’s 130 years already, before ‘Palestinianism’ was invented:

Jews were expelled from East-Jerusalem by the Jordanian occupation at 1948. They lived in East-Jerusalem for thousands of years. They returned to their homes after Israel liberated the city in 67.
Jerusalem was never in history the capitol of any Arab country. It has been the Capitol only of Israel and the Jewish people.

2nd, Blumenthal is silent on the Palestinians ethnic cleansing plans of Jews and Jerusalem.

Is it because Blumenthal supports the ethnic cleansing of Jews from their Capitol.

http://www.palwatch.org/main.aspx?fi=157&doc_id=5490
PA TV: Western Wall area to be turned into Arab housing neighborhood.
Palestinian Authority TV:
Western Wall area to be turned into Arab housing neighborhood -Jewish presence in Jerusalem will be erased from history.
Aug. 17, 2011

http://www.palwatch.org/main.aspx?fi=157&doc_id=8258
PA: Jews have no connection to Western Wall
Itamar Marcus and Nan Jacques Zilberdik
Jan. 15, 2013
PA: “The Western Wall… no person besides Muslims ever used it as a place of worship, throughout all of history”
The Palestinian Authority Minister of Religious Affairs, Mahmoud Al-Habbash, said recently that all of Jerusalem and the Western Wall are “the sole right of Palestinians.”

You notice yevka cant rebuke one thing i said.

macheath327 says:

And let’s see who is against a two-state solution. In December of 2012, senior Likud members said the following:
“Education Minister Gideon Sa’ar, of the Likud party, told Ynet that “two states for two peoples was never part of [Likud's] election platform.” On Monday, hard-line Likud MK Tzipi Hotovely said the Bar-Ilan speech was a tactical maneuver only meant to placate the world. “We are opposed to a Palestinian state,” she said.”
http://www.timesofisrael.com/amid-uproar-netanyahu-reaffirms-commitment-to-two-state-solution/
Since the Isreali election, anti-two state forces among the governing parties have only been strengthened. I don’t believe Israel and the Palestinian terrorists are in any way morally equivalent, but to say the problem with BDS is that is undercuts a two -state solution is to ignore what is happening in Israeli politics, where the movement (and concrete actions like expansion of settlements) all are undercutting any hope of a two-state solution. And that’s driven by Israeli politicians, not BDS.

Barak and Olmert offered the Palestinians a state, something no Arab or Islamic country ever did.
Israel offered the Palestinians a state, even though there was never in
history any state called Palestine governed by Palestinians.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/ab...
Abbas: Olmert offered PA land equaling 100% of West Bank
Abbas tells Asharq Al-Awsat that land offered included no Israeli settlements or Israeli Arabs.
Jack Khoury
Dec.20, 2009

http://www.haaretz.com/news/di...
Saeb Erekat confirmed Olmert had offered a final peace settlement that would
include territorial concession equivalent to the entire West Bank and
the division of Jerusalem. The Palestinians also control 100% of Gaza.
Nov 3, 2011

I have 2 words for you. Palestinian Rejectionism.
Here you had in Olmert ready to make unheard of concessions to the Palestinians.
Why didn’t the Pals respond to Olmert’s offer?

The Palestinians refused to end the conflict as long as it meant that they
would have to accept the legitimacy of Israel as a sovereign, permanent
country and neighbor. Only when the Palestinians
extremist/rejectionist/supremacist attitude changes will peace really be
possible.

I advise everyone to go on Palmediawatch to understand what Israel is dealing with.

PA glorifies Maalot massacre
http://palwatch.org/main.aspx?...
PA TV glorifies terror attack that killed 22 children
Itamar Marcus and Nan Jacques Zilberdik
Feb. 29, 2012
PA TV glorifies terror attack that killed 22 children
and 4 adults in Ma’alot, in 1974
Other terror attacks by DFLP also glorified

http://palwatch.org/main.aspx?...
Female Palestinian terrorist does not regret murder of 15 civilians at Sbarro pizza shop that she planned.
Oct 23, 2011
Ahlam
Tamimi was happy to learn that 8 Israeli children were murdered at the
Sbarros terrorist attack in 2001 instead of the 3 children she thought
originally.
Read her interview. Again i ask you, do the Palestinians have a conscience?

http://palwatch.org/main.aspx?...
PA radio song praises suicide bombings against Israelis
by Itamar Marcus and Nan Jacques Zilberdik
Dec. 5, 2012

http://www.palwatch.org/main.a...
Official PA daily: Be’er Sheva is a Palestinian city
Itamar Marcus and Nan Jacques Zilberdik
Dec. 30, 2012

http://www.palwatch.org/main.a...
Fatah’s Facebook: Glorifying terror, inciting hatred, and erasing Israel
Itamar Marcus and Nan Jacques Zilberdik
Jan. 7, 2013

http://www.ynetnews.com/articl...
World forgot Israel’s 9/11
Op-ed: Italian journalist says world should be ashamed for forgetting Israeli terror victims
Giulio Meotti Published: 09.08.11

http://www.israelnationalnews….
PA Religious Official Publicly Calls for Genocide of Jews
PA’s principal religious leader presents the killing of Jews by Muslims as a religious Islamic goal.
Elad Benari
1/16/2011

http://elderofziyon.blogspot.c...
Hamas celebrates 10th anniversary of Netanya Passover massacre
March 27, 2012
Maybe
I missed it, but I don’t recall seeing any Arabs protesting against
this attack, or writing anguished op-eds about how a fellow Muslim could
have done such a thing. No Arab groups popped up on college campuses
calling for solidarity with Jews against terror. There were no UN
resolutions condemning the massacre.
But there was a PA-sponsored soccer tournament in Tulkarem named after the suicide bomber.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.co...
73% of Palestinians Believe Jews Should Be Killed Wherever They Hide
Jim Hoft
July 16, 2011,

http://www.palwatch.org/main.a...
Abbas honors terrorist Dalal Mughrabi, killer of 37
12/31/09
This
week Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas once again honored
the memory of the terrorist Dalal Mughrabi – this time by sponsoring a
ceremony celebrating the 50th anniversary of her birth. Mughrabi led the
worst terror attack in Israel’s history in 1978, when she and other
terrorists hijacked a bus and killed 37 civilians. Present at the
ceremony were Palestinian dignitaries and a children’s marching band.
Earlier this year, Abbas sponsored a computer center named after
Mughrabi.
The PA further glorified Mughrabi on the date of her birth
when the Governor of Ramallah announced the naming of the “Dalal
Mughrabi Square”.

http://palwatch.org/main.aspx?...
Abbas honors mastermind of Munich Olympics massacre
Itamar Marcus and Nan Jacques Zilberdik
July 6, 2010

http://www.palwatch.org/main.a...
PA TV honors Sbarro pizza shop terrorists
Itamar Marcus and Nan Jacques Zilberdik
Sept. 4, 2011
PA
TV host sends “best wishes” to “our glorious” prisoner who transported
suicide bomber to attack that killed 15, including 7 children.
These are the sadists that the left supports.

http://www.palwatch.org/main.a...
PA continues to teach denial of Israel’s existence
Oct 5, 2010
Itamar Marcus and Nan Jacques Zilberdik
Last
week, PA TV rebroadcast an educational documentary that has been
broadcast numerous times since 2007. The documentary describes the
Israeli cities of Haifa, Acre, Ashkelon, Jaffa and the Sea of Galilee as
Palestinian.

http://www.israelnationalnews….
PA Historian & Official Deny Israel’s History in Land of Israel
An
Arab PA historian and a senior PLO official have denied that the Jewish
nation has any historical connection to the Land of Israel.
Yoni Kempinski
11/4/2009

http://www.thememriblog.org/bl...
Hamas MP: A Palestinian Who Kills One Jew Will Be Rewarded As If He Killed 30 Million

http://www.likud.nl/extr486.ht...
Hamas Cleric Calls for Extermination of Jews
Itamar Marcus and Barbara Crook
April 19, 2009

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/s...
Karni Eldad/
The PA is poisoning its children against Israel
2/4/2010

http://elderofziyon.blogspot.c...
April 01, 2012
Hamas celebrates anniversary of Haifa restaurant bombing
Hamas
newspaper Palestine Times has a featured article celebrating the ten
year anniversary of the bombing of the Arab-owned Matza restaurant in
Haifa, that killed 16 Israeli civilians. The article includes photos of
the bomber as well as of the devastation to the restaurant, whose roof
collapsed from the force of the explosion.

http://www.nationalreview.com/...
Following
the murderous terrorist attack on Kibbutz Metzer in 2002, the PLO
cold-bloodedly stated on its official website, “We will continue to
strike in any place, targeting their children as well.” Five innocent
Israelis, including a mother and her two little boys, were butchered in
that attack, all of them, Fatah said, “Zionist colonizers” killed in a
“qualitative operation in the settlement of Metzer.”

Here’s how
the official Palestinian Authority newspaper Al-Hayat al-Jadida
headlined its coverage: “Five Israelis killed in an attack on the
settlement Metzer.” The report continued, “A Palestinian infiltrated the
settlement Metzer and opened fire on the settlers.” It is not well
known that the Palestinian press frequently refers to towns in Israel,
such as Holon and Kiryat Shmona, as “settlements.” Besides implying that
all of Israel is an illegitimate colonial outpost, such references
clearly are brought to justify the killings and distinguish them from
terrorism.

http://www.jewishworldreview.c...
After
the Tel Aviv massacre on January 12th 2003, where 2 Palestinian
homicide bombers massacred 23 Israeli civilians. The PLO web site posted
a statement — celebrating the attacks:
“With faith in the calling
of holy jihad,” it said, “two suicide attackers . . . succeeded this
evening to infiltrate the Zionist roadblocks and to enter the heart of .
. . Tel Aviv and carried out two consecutive suicide attacks… These
suicide attacks caused a large number of fatalities and casualties in
the center of the Zionist occupation of our land. We swear before our
people that additional suicide operations will occur.”
That is a view with which much of Arab opinion concurs. ArabicNews.com,
for example, datelined its story on the Tel Aviv attack
“Palestine-Israel,” and reported that the bombings had killed “23
Israeli settlers.”

http://www.camera.org/index.as...
One
day after the Ramallah lynching of two Israelis, Ahmad Abu Halabiya, a
member of the PA-appointed Fatwa Council, called on listeners to find
and butcher Jews “no matter where they are, in any country. Fight them,
wherever you are. Wherever you meet them, kill them.”

http://elderofziyon.blogspot.c...
Manly Palestinian Arab hero who murdered little old Jewish ladies at Passover massacre.
11/3/2011

http://www.israelnationalnews….
Fogel Baby-Stabber ‘Proud of What I Did’
Hakim Awad and Amjad Awad happy about Fogel massacre.
6/5/11

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2008...
Hamas Foreign Minister “Zahar:”After we defeat the Zionists we will persecute them… we will persecute them to eternity”
May 14, 08

http://www.hvk.org/articles/12...
Sheikh Muhammed Siyam, a Hamas military leader.
“I’ve
been told to restrict or restrain what I say. . . . I hope no one is
recording me or taking any pictures, as none are allowed . . . because
I’m going to speak the truth to you,” Siyam reportedly said at the
conference. “It’s simple. Finish off the Israelis. Kill them all!
Exterminate them! No peace ever! Do not bother to talk politics.”

http://elderofziyon.blogspot.c...
Full destruction of Israel is “the only red line” 8/25/11
A cartoon in the official PA daily newspaper Al Hayat al Jadida:
As PMW writes:
The
Palestinian Authority is telling its people that peace with Israel is
not a goal. Instead, the PA says that all of Israel is “Palestine,” and
that no compromise is acceptable because this principle is “the only red
line.” This message was expressed by the regular cartoonist, Muhammad
Sabaaneh, in the official PA daily.
Nothing gets printed in Al Hayat
al Jadida if it is not approved by the PLO and its subsidiary the
Palestinian Authority. And the PLO logo has a very similar map:

http://www.camera.org/index.as...
One
week after the Dolphinarium bombing on June 1, 2001 in Tel Aviv in
which 21 people, mainly young girls, were killed, PA television carried
the sermon of Sheik Ibrahim Al-Madhi. He said: “Blessings to whoever
waged Jihad for the sake of Allah; blessings to whoever raided for the
sake of Allah; blessings to whoever put a belt of explosives on his body
or on his sons’ and plunged into the midst of the Jews, crying ‘Allahu
Akbar…’

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/i...
Ahmed
Qurei says Israel has no history in Jerusalem. Jewish Temples never
existed, and Israel has been working to “invent” a Jewish connection to
Jerusalem

http://www.freeman.org/m_onlin...
Dr.
Muhammad Ibrahim Madi, a Palestinian Authority religious leader: “We
will blow them up in Hadera, we will blow them up in Tel-Aviv”
“We
will blow them up in Hadera, we will blow them up in Tel-Aviv and in
Netanya… We will fight against them and rule over them until the Jew
will hide behind the trees and stones and the tree and stone will say:
‘Moslem! Servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, kill him’. We will
enter Jerusalem as conquerors, and Jaffa as conquerors, and Haifa as
conquerors and Ashkelon as conquerors….”
[Preacher Dr. Muhammad Ibrahim Madi, PATV, 3 August 2001

http://www.palwatch.org/main.a...
Glorifying terrorists and terror
Palestinian
society’s habitual glorification of terrorists as heroes and role
models is one of its most effective means of promoting terror. In
honoring the worst killers, the PA is simultaneously giving approval to
murder and enticing future terrorists with assurances of glory and honor
if they succeed in killing. Terror and murder become the Palestinian’s
ticket to fame, honor and glory.

The
terrorists honored most highly amongst Palestinian society are those
who have killed the greatest number. Abd Al-Baset Udeh, killer of 30 at
the Passover Seder massacre, had a soccer tournament for 14-year-olds
named for him. His brother was honored with distributing the trophies.
Dalal Mughrabi, terrorist bus hijacker (led the most lethal terror
attack in Israel’s history in 1978, when she and other terrorists killed
37 civilians, 12 of them children) has had summer camps, schools,
graduation ceremonies and sporting events named for her, as well as many
TV documentaries honoring her. Palestinian newspapers also frequently
glorify Mughrabi, as in the Al-Ayyam article which described Mughrabi as
writing "the most glorious page of heroism in the history of the
Palestinian struggle. [Aug. 2, 2009]. Thaer Hammad, who as a lone gunman
murdered 10 Israelis in 2002, was glorified by the official PA daily as
“the hero of the Intifada.”

This
adulation of the worst terrorists and praise for their heroism reflects
the policy of the leadership of the Palestinian Authority. This video
shows PA Chairman Mahmoud Abbas,issuing “greetings of honour and esteem”
to mass murderers, whom he publicly names, one by one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?f...
Palestinian Authority Chairman Abbas sends greetings to worst Palestinian terrorists

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...
PA TV glorifies terrorist mastermind of suicide attacks that murdered 31 Israeli civilians.

http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEas...
‘Israel behind increase in Palestinian AIDS cases’
KHALED ABU TOAMEH
12/01/2012

6cmzumquadrat says:

That’s rich. Seriously, I actually had to laugh at this comment, well done.

herbcaen says:

As a right wing zionist, I actually agree with your proposal. The 800,000 Sephardi Jews who were expelled from Egypt, Iraq, Syria, Libya etc left behind billions of dollars in assets. Let the Palestinians use those assets to create new lives in Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, LIbya. Acknowledge that a population transfer of equal numbers of people occurred in 1948-1956 and be done with it

mudplanet says:

“something no Arab or Islamic country ever did.”
No Arab or Islamic country conducted a deliberate ethnic cleansing campaign to force one million civilian Christian and Muslim Palestinians from their homes and lands an d into refugee camps at the point of a gun – that was Israel that did that.

he 48′ refugees problem was made by the Arabs themselves! They have started a war against first day of Israel, most of them escaped their places for the call of their local and community leaders. You can’t start a war targeting to annihilate all of the Jews and after you lost the war to cry and play misery for more than 60 years.

mudplanet says:

“he 48′ refugees problem was made by the Arabs themselves”

There ya go! It takes real character to create one million Christian and Muslim refugees and then try to blame it on the refugees.

The key word, of course, being refugees. Those one million Christian and Muslim men, women and children were “refugees from Israeli terrorism.”

mudplanet, you’ve been reading to much of the lies of Al Jazeera.
Efraim Karsh destroys the lies of Mudplanet in this great article.
http://www.netanyahu.org/werpalex.html

When they have a state, they can “return” there. Jews have been expelled from many countries, including Eretz Yisrael (the Land of Israel); however, descendants of those Jews can only return to Medinat Yisrael (the State of Israel).

They are not asking for a return of those who left (around 750,000 in 1948); they are demanding a return of those who left (regardless of how long they had actually lived there) and all of their descendants. This special refugee status only applies to Palestinians. In every other refugee case, including the 800,000 Jews driven from Arab and Muslim lands, they are settled and become citizens in their host countries; with every other refugee population, their children are integrated into their host countries. The Arab countries leave the Palestinians in segregated refugee camps like a festering sore and the PA has actually turned down offers from Israel to allow immigration of Palestinians to the West Bank from dangerous situations like the one in Syria. Their goal is the destruction of Israel; return is just a means.

6cmzumquadrat says:

Jews have been expelled from many countries, which is a terrible tragedy. The answer to that tragedy is not to inflict the very same on another group of people. Anyone with an ounce of morality or ethics understands that.

Some countries, Germany included, have offered Jews who fled Germany as a result of persecution the opportunity to regain citizenship. As a matter of fact, when I lived in Berlin, I met LOADS of Israelis who were taking advantage of that, because they were absolutely fed up with Israel.

mudplanet says:

You’re directing me to the web site of a confirmed racist war criminal as “proof” that he isn’t a racist and a war criminal.

Only the twisted mind of a zionist would think this isn’t a stupid suggestion.

as you are clearly an astute student of history, i am sure you are aware that england split ‘palestine’ into jewish and arab territories after growing tired of dealing with the violent propogated largely by the arabs. when this division was not to the liking of the arabs, continuously throughout history have sought to annihilate the existence of any culture and of course religion that opposes their own and/or generally propogate violence (see: just about every on going conflict, e.g. syria) they attempted to unleash war on the now jewish owned territories. despite being out numbered, the jewish forces proved superior and were literally forced to claim the territories that they were attacked from in order to preserve the safety of their nation. they never expelled any arabs from their given area, unlike how the arabs expelled them. so while there are undoubtedly innocent ‘palestinian’ (ottoman name btw) families who lost land in the conflict, it is their violent brethren they have to blame, not the jews who took the defensive position in an assault against their existence.

6cmzumquadrat says:

The only thing you’ve gotten remotely correct is that I’m an astute student of history. Unfortunately, I’m far too astute a student to take such blatantly racist, revisionist history seriously.

Grangaard says:

kAHANE MAY HAVE BEEN RIGHT

what denial r u talking abt, moron?

oh yes, racist. the ultimate refuge of the politically and ideologically-lead morons like you.

fascist creep – your lies are brought up as examples by the EU’s working definition of antisemitism and antisemites. so much about your credentials and empty claims.

“terrible tragedy” – your fained, fake sensitivity is not only outrageous, it’s totally disgusting and nauseating. Look, chap, by advocating in your deranged mind and movement the violent destruction of a UN member state, you proved beyond every doubt that you are a mental case. Cause your aims and goals are that of the destruction of Israel.

brynababy says:

Except, as we subsequently found out, it’s not even true that it’s a ‘discussion’. Pro-Israel people who signed up for the so-called Conference, were turned away and not allowed to participate in any discussion or even hear the speakers. In fact, the press was barred. Doesn’t that strike the New York Times at it’s heart?!

brynababy says:

Your knowledge of history is certainly twisted.

greatj says:

Chris Hayes is a leftist snake who deep down inside hates everything about Jews and Israel and like the rest of M.S.N.B.C.has a dishonest toadlike obedience to Obama and the Democratic party.Hayes joins other deranged Jews who go out of their way to stick up for all murderous Moslems against Israel and the Jewish people.

macheath327 says:

Yes, there are some murderous, crazy Palestinians, and Hamas is a bunch of thugs. So what? Attacks here on BDS (which I don’t support) said BDS was against a two state solution, and my post simply pointed out that Israeli politicians are increasingly rejecting a two-state solution. If you all think there shouldn’t be a two-state solution, then say so. But to act like BDS is the main obstacle to a two-state solution when Netanyahu and his allies are killing it off is diversionary and hysterical.

mudplanet says:

Please explain how when Israelis force one million civilian Christian and Muslim men, women and children from their homes and lands in Israel and into refugee camps at the point of a gun it’s “twisted” to call it terrorism and ethnic cleansing.

Those one million refugees are refugees of Israeli terrorism and racism, not of Syrian terrorism, or Lebanese terrorism, or Jordanian terrorism, or Egyptian terrorism.

And suggesting that the Lebanese, or the Syrians, or the Jordanians who give them refuge in refugee camps are responsible for their refugee status is just so much bullshite. Those one million people are refugees from an Israeli terrorism and and Israeli ethnic cleansing campaign.

A “twisted” interpretation of the events is to suggest that when Israel forces one million men, woman and children from their homes and lands and into refugee camps and then spends five decades refusing to recognize the internationally recognized human rights of those refugees it’s the fault of the refugees. That’s exactly like blaming a rape victim for the rape.

6cmzumquadrat says:

Pardon?
I’m Jewish, I’ve spent time in Israel talking to old men and women who fled for Palestine in the 30s and 40s. They left behind everything and their stories will never leave me.
The forced displacement of any population is a tragedy, that’s a standard that has to be kept, and it doesn’t simply get disregarded because it’s Israelis or Americans doing it.

6cmzumquadrat says:

What are you talking about, you raving lunatic?

Maybe someone could help me out here? I don’t understand how refugees who were driven out of their homes should not be entitled to return to them. That seems like a very civilised idea to me.

Also, how in the 21st century is a “Jewish” state acceptable? Surely the Arabs citizens cannot be expected to identify with such a state. Is that not a problem or do their views not matter.?

dgdgf2hotmai.com says:

NBC gat a promblem Otis Livinstain and Cindy Cindy they are sick in the heads I saw them in the club they selin drugs let them go the are embarising for american television

Wraith7216 says:

After all when Dershowitz and the other israel apologists gather for a hasbara-fest. They always have an opposing viewpoint to provide balance you know…

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