Our Jewish guest this week is David Litt, author of Thanks, Obama: My Hopey, Changey White House Years, a memoir about his time as a speechwriter in the Obama White House. He tells us about teaching President Obama to say ‘chag sameach’ for a Passover video, writing jokes for the White House Correspondent’s Dinner, and the time his grandpa sent him a water pipeline proposal to show the president.

Our gentile of the week is Thomas Nichols, professor of national security at the United States Naval War College, whose latest book is The Death of Expertise: The Campaign Against Established Knowledge and Why It Matters. He explains the dangers of experts being branded as out-of-touch elites and experience itself being shunned—and how President Trump is the avatar of this cultural shift. We also discuss how his students’ view of him changed after he was on Jeopardy, and why Jews feel such an affinity for Greeks.

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