Passing It Down
Ep. 247: Actor and comedian Michael Ian Black on his new book, ‘A Better Man,’ and Kylie Unell on strengthening Jewish identity among fellow young Jews
This week on Unorthodox, we’re recovering from our potentially poisonous etrog-tinis.
Our first Jewish guest is actor and comedian Michael Ian Black, best known for Wet Hot American Summer and VH1’s I Love The … series, whose latest book is A Better Man, a meditation on masculinity written in the form of a letter to his college-age son. He tells us about the book, which is more earnest than you might expect from the comic actor, and why he wants to offer boys and young men a better path than “toxic masculinity.” He also explains the Jewish influences on his thinking and parenting, and tells us about changing his name from Schwartz to Black when he got into showbiz (there was another Michael Schwartz in the theater union).
Our second Jewish guest is Kylie Unell, a Ph.D. student in Jewish thought at New York University and the author of an essay in JTA titled, “My mom is white and my dad is black. Don’t call me a ‘Jew of Color.’” She tells us how growing up in Kansas and then Israel and attending college in New York City shaped her Jewish identity and pushed her to reject other labels—like “modern Orthodox”—that she felt didn’t fully capture her identity. She also tells us about drawing on Jewish history (like hosting a Moses Mendelssohn-themed Shabbat dinner) to create a new spiritual community for fellow young Jews.
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