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Some Useful Reading on Guns and Gun Control

Ezra Klein and Jeffrey Goldberg weigh in

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As the reports about the heinous school shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary in Newtown, Connecticut continue to stream in, here are some compelling takes of the non-speculative sort.

At the Washington Post, Ezra Klein has posted 11 facts about mass shootings in the United States. The whole thing is worth a read. But this one jumped out at me.

4. Of the 11 deadliest shootings in the US, five have happened from 2007 onward.

That doesn’t include Friday’s shooting in Sandy Hook, Connecticut. The AP put the early reported death toll at 27, which would make it the second-deadliest mass shooting in US history.

Over at The Atlantic, Jeffrey Goldberg wrote a piece for the magazine this month arguing for more guns and more gun control. Below he outlines the futility of the gun-control efforts.

There are an estimated 280 million to 300 million guns in private hands in America—many legally owned, many not. Each year, more than 4 million new guns enter the market. This level of gun saturation has occurred not because the anti-gun lobby has been consistently outflanked by its adversaries in the National Rifle Association, though it has been. The NRA is quite obviously a powerful organization, but like many effective pressure groups, it is powerful in good part because so many Americans are predisposed to agree with its basic message.

America’s level of gun ownership means that even if the Supreme Court—which ruled in 2008 that the Second Amendment gives citizens the individual right to own firearms, as gun advocates have long insisted—suddenly reversed itself and ruled that the individual ownership of handguns was illegal, there would be no practical way for a democratic country to locate and seize those guns.

Many gun-control advocates, and particularly advocates of a total gun ban, would like to see the United States become more like Canada, where there are far fewer guns per capita and where most guns must be registered with the federal government. The Canadian approach to firearms ownership has many attractions—the country’s firearm homicide rate is one-sixth that of the U.S. But barring a decision by the American people and their legislators to remove the right to bear arms from the Constitution, arguing for applying the Canadian approach in the U.S. is useless.

We’ll keep you posted as things develop.

And, it goes without saying, we’d like to express our grief at this terrible moment.

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This wasn’t about gun control. Its about mental health and recognizing signs.

Dick Stanley says:

Some Israeli teachers carry, knowledge of which ought to give a mass murderer, even a deranged one, pause. Certainly removing those stupid, government-imposed “gun-free zone” signs at the entrance, which are just invitations to criminality, would be a start. Killers must be uncertain whether they will encounter guns pointed at them. Goldberg makes the case for arming teachers or staff, which is more likely to work than further empowering incompetent government.

Randall Ward says:

Canada has a crime rate five times as high as the USA. The violent crime rate is five times as high. The same goes for G B. The gun register effort in Canada has been a failure and the govt. gave up on it.
The crime is that children are gathered together in one place with less protection than the average home has. The schools are responsible for the safety of the children. There will always be nuts and angry people in this country and protection must be provided to the children to defend against such people.
A few days ago a man in China stabbed twenty school children in school. All he had was a small knife.
The same media that promotes abortion and a sinful life style is now in full attack mode against a hunk of metal that cannot be operated without a human will to make it function.
Most of the news media is owned and run by Jews and most of the media is promoting a selfish lifestyle of whatever I want is OK and good. Maybe this web site would like to comment on the fact that Jews are in control of most media in the USA and the result of the content on people in our country.

disqus_Pb5yBxXpB8 says:

As is too often the regrettable case, people seem to focus
on the tool rather than on sick employment of that tool. If the
GoddamRepublicans
continue to make mental health care unavailable to those who most
require psychiatric attention, then there will continue to be crazy
people continuing to try to kill people. Naturally it’s great to believe
that crazy people won’t use guns uf we implement appropriate gun
control. Like, for example, in Norway. Or perhaps in such a
circumstance, a psychopath will use fertilizer & diesel fuel, as in
Oklahoma.
Remember, people who want to kill, however demented their drive, will
find a way to do so. Much better to help people not want to kill.

This revivied crusade against guns is like trying to get rid of
bedbugs by making it illegal to have
beds. People are irrational, reacting emotionally rather than
thoughtfully, analytically. We need to focus on first causes. That would
solve a lot more
problems than even mass killings, which in fact result in far fewer
deaths than driving without seatbelts, just to look at a completely
unrelated statistic for a weird bit of perspective.

Faival44 says:

“If the GoddamRepublicans continue to make mental health care unavailable to those who most require psychiatric attention …”

Ah, yes! If not for the ‘GoddamRepublicans’ there wouldn’t be ‘crazy people’ trying to kill people. And here I thought they were so busy poisoning our water and air, taking breaks only to push granny off a cliff, that they wouldn’t have time for ordinary psychopathic mass murder. Silly me. If we could only get rid of the ‘GoddamRepublicans’.
Brilliant!

Alexandra Everything says:

As someone whose lived in many countries, including Canada and the US, I can offer another benefit from the reduction of guns : an improvement in freedom of speech. While Americans rattle on and on about their ‘rights’, they are in fact quite refrained about what ideas they discuss in public. Fear of offending someone is linked with fear of violent retribution. My years in Canada, Germany and England were such a pleasure because of the quality conversations I had with people on the street, who felt more free to express their opinions and therefore more engaged politically.

Go back to Canada, Germany or England then if do not wish to be around guns.

You are insane. Republicans have done nothing to stop mental health care. Remember we now have Obamacare. That StupidDemocratic idea will solve all our problems! Stop blaming others for problems that can only be solved if we all get together and make it happen instead of blaming Republicans for your problems! Have not heard a word about mental health being the cause of gun violence. Just blame the guns! Those Goddamguns are mental disabled and have a mind of their own!

You are so right!

Faival44 says:

Sarcasm too subtle for you, Stephen? Re-read my post and look closely for the quotation marks. Take a deep breath before responding.

Faival44 says:

Sarcasm too subtle for you, Stephen? Re-read my post and look closely for the quotation marks. Take a deep breath before responding.

Your Comment is ok until you stereotype Jews. Stick with the facts. It’s our right to defend ourselves and it’s our right to possess firearms to do so. Any Jew who knows history should fully support these rights. Israel.. heavily armed.. lots of gun crime? I don’t think so.

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