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Bill Clinton Talks Two States in Israel

Bubba urges peace at a fête for Shimon Peres

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Iranian President-elect Hassan Rouhani made his first public address today where he mixed slightly conciliatory rhetoric with a pretty defiant declaration that the days of Iran suspending its uranium enrichment were over.

Less than a thousand miles west, many gathered to toast Israeli President Shimon Peres at a gala for the Nextbook author. Among the participants was former President Bill Clinton, who wasted no time in turning the Peres party into the pulpit, by urging a two-state solution. To illustrate his point, he drew on the idea of Israeli democracy, which is threatened by the continued disenfranchisement of Palestinians in the West Bank.

“Is it really okay with you if Israel has a majority of its people living within your territory who are not now, and never will be, allowed to vote? If it is, can you say with a straight face that you’ll be a democracy? If you let them vote, can you live with not being a Jewish state? And if you can’t live with one of those things, then you are left with trying to cobble together some theory of a two-state solution,” he said, with a Palestinian state next to Israel.

The comments came hours after Jewish Home party leader and high-ranking minister Naftali Bennett called the two-state solution “a dead end” during a press conference with the Yesha Council.


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herbcaen says:

Two states-israel and Lewinsky

CABchi says:

Well, that certainly is an impressive, substantive response to Clinton’s observation– an observation that strikes me as being absolutely true.

doctordogood says:

The proof that Clinton has a bigger mouth and ego than a brain is this simplistic lecture. Won’t he ever shut up?

Garry Sklar says:

Slick Willie, the half million dollar man , is still looking for redemption by winning a Nobel Prize (following in Jimmie Carter’s footsteps by lecturing to the Jews). Isn’t he the same guy who said at another high priced lecture that if Israel were ever attacked he’d join the IDF? Yeah, Willie, you’ll always find some group to pay you money to hear your voice.

PhillipNagle says:

Hey Bill, you had your chance and you know that it was the arabs who wouldn’t compromise. So shut up! Ditto for Hillary!

John Salisbury says:

He asked 3 questions

Hershl says:

Clinton is a loser with a big mouth and even bigger ego.

I voted for the fool and am doing penance ever since.

The only president worse than him for Israel is Carter who is in the pocket of the Palestinian dictators.

The Palestinians have their damn state. It consists of two pieces of land; one in Ramallah and the other in Gaza. Now let them just shut up and get lost.

Jordan = Palestine. But they know that they will never get King Hussein to give them anything so they go to the only group in the world who hates itself so much that it is willing to give its sliver of land to its enemies who attacked it seven times and continue to do so, the Jews.

Pathetic.

Michael Stein says:

There is no more King Hussein. It’s now King Abdullah. Also, the problem with the West Bank and Gaza is that they are not an independent country. I honestly don’t know why Gaza isn’t independent at this point, but the West Bank is still considered Israeli-controlled territory, despite the nominal control that the Palestinian Authority may have.

Hershl says:

Thanks for the corrections!

Isri Salmonii says:

May I respectfully draw
attention to the following please. Please accept my apologies if it is long.
God bless you all.

* The UN view of the Palestinian Territories can be seen at
the following URL: http://unispal.un.org/pdfs/OCH….

* The West Bank and East Jerusalem is occupied Palestine (bilaterally recognised by 132 nations in the world including India, China, Russia, Brazil, Malaysia, Indonesia, Thailand and Iceland).

* Palestine is officially a non-member State and recognised by the UN. 138 nations supported Palestine last November in its successful bid for statehood. France, Spain, Portugal, Ireland, Italy, Norway, Greece, Cyprus and Malta were among many European nations to support Palestine. Their vote for Palestine was important as were those cast by India, China, Russia, Brazil, Japan, Mexico and New Zealand who supported Palestine too. The Secretary General of the UN and Vatican Church welcomed the re-birth of Palestine.

* However, Palestine (West Bank and East Jerusalem) is still illegally held and sadly Israel’s Prime Minister Mr Netanyahu has ignored the ruling of the International Court of Justice (subsequently supported by the UN and EU) with respect to the “separation barrier”. This “wall” is 3 times the length of the Berlin Wall.

* UNESCO’s recognition of Palestine in 2011 was supported by France, Spain, Ireland, Belgium, Norway, Greece and other European nations.

* Please also see UNSC Resolution 478 concerning Jerusalem. The 4th Geneva Convention is applicable to all the Palestinian Territories.

* International law and UN Resolutions (over which there are over 150) are ignored by Israel’s Prime Minister and Foreign Minister.

* UN Resolutions specify Israel’s illegal hold of the Palestinian Territories to be a violation of the 4th Geneva Convention and as such is a War Crime under international law. More so now, that settlements are being placed in another nation.

Yours sincerely

*** UN Security Council
Resolution 478 (1980) of 20 August 1980 – BINDING

The Security Council, recalling its resolution 476 (1980);
reaffirming again that the acquisition of territory by force is inadmissible;
deeply concerned over the enactment of a “basic law” in the Israeli
Knesset proclaiming a change in the character and status of the Holy City of
Jerusalem, with its implications for peace and security; noting that Israel has
not complied with resolution 476 (1980); reaffirming its determination to
examine practical ways and means, in accordance with the relevant provisions of
the Charter of the United Nations, to secure the full implementation of its
resolution 476 (1980), in the event of non-compliance by Israel ; Censures in
the strongest terms the enactment by Israel of the “basic law” on
Jerusalem and the refusal to comply with relevant Security Council resolutions;

http://unispal.un.org/UNISPAL….

*** Resolution 694 (1991) – BINDING

Adopted by the Security Council
at its 2989th meeting on 24

May 1991

The Security Council,

Reaffirming its resolution 681
(1990),

Having learned with deep
concern and consternation that Israel has, in violation of its obligations under
the Fourth Geneva Convention of 1949, and acting in opposition to relevant
Security Council resolutions, and to the detriment of efforts to achieve a
comprehensive, just and lasting peace in the Middle East, deported four
Palestinian civilians on 18 May 1991,

1. Declares that the action of
the Israeli authorities of deporting four Palestinians on 18 May is in violation
of the Fourth Geneva Convention of 1949, which is applicable to all the
Palestinian territories occupied by Israel since 1967, including Jerusalem;

2. Deplores this action and
reiterates that Israel, the occupying Power, refrain from deporting any Palestinian
civilian from the occupied territories and ensure the save and immediate return
of all those deported;

*** Resolution 672 (1990) – BINDING

Adopted by the Security Council
at its 2948th meeting on 12 October 1990

The Security Council,

Recalling its resolutions 476 (1980) and 478 (1980),

Reaffirming that a just and lasting solution to the Arab-Israeli conflict must be based on its resolutions 242 (1967) and 338 (1973) through an active negotiating process which takes into account the right to security for all States in the region, including Israel, as well as the legitimate political rights of the Palestinian people,

Taking into consideration the statement of the Secretary-General relative to the purpose of the mission he is sending to the region and conveyed to the Council by the President on 12 October 1990,

1. Expresses alarm at the
violence which took place on 8 October at the Al Haram al Shareef and other
Holy Places of Jerusalem resulting in over twenty Palestinian deaths and to the
in-jury of more than one hundred and fifty people, including Palestinian
civilians and innocent worshippers;

2. Condemns especially the acts
of violence committed by the Israeli security forces resulting in injuries and
loss of human life;

3. Calls upon Israel, the
occupying Power, to abide scrupulously by its legal obligations and responsibilities
under the Fourth Geneva Convention, which is applicable to all the territories
occupied by Israel since 1967;

4. Requests, in connection with
the decision of the Secretary-General to send a mission to the region, which
the Council welcomes, that he submit a report to it before the end of October
1990 containing his findings and conclusions and that he use as appropriate all the resources of the United Nations in the region in carrying out the mission.

24th April 2012 – UK Foreign Secretary William Hague said:

“I strongly condemn the Israeli government’s decision yesterday to turn three
illegal outposts in the West Bank into settlements. I urged the Israeli
government in my statement on 5 April to remove – not legalise – outposts across the West Bank”.

Furthermore, I would like to refer you to specific serious concerns raised by the International Court of Justice (2004) – with relevance to the ‘security barrier’ – which was viewed with alarm by the international community. Incidentally the reference to the illegality of settlements in the West Bank and East Jerusalem was also reinforced when the International Court of Justice also found the following (indeed the EU supported the UN vote pertaining to the ‘security barrier’):

* That the separation barrier
is intended to assist the settlements, the establishment of which violates
Article 49 of the Convention. Also, the court pointed out that the restrictions
placed on the local population located between the barrier and the Green Line
are liable to lead to abandonment of the land, which also constitutes a violation
of Article 49. In addition, the opinion stated that taking control of private
land to build the barrier injured private property owners, and thus violated
Articles 46 and 52 of the Hague Regulations of 1907 and of Article 53 of the
Fourth Geneva Convention.

Isri Salmonii says:

Some other key UN Security Council Resolutions on Palestine
– BINDING AND INTERNATIONAL LAW (there are over 150 UN Resolutions)

252
(21 May 1968)

Urgently calls upon Government of Israel
to rescind measures that change the legal status of Jerusalem, including the
expropriation of land and properties thereon.

262
(31 December 1968)

Calls upon Government of Israel to pay
compensation to Lebanon for the destruction of airliners at Beirut
International Airport.

267
(3 July 1969)

Expects Israel rescind measures seeking
to change the legal status of occupied East Jerusalem.

271
(15 September 1969)

Expects the demand that Government of
Israel rescind measures seeking to change the legal status of occupied East
Jerusalem.

298
(25 September 1971)

Expects the demand that Government of
Israel rescind measures seeking to change the legal status of occupied East
Jerusalem.

446
(22 March 1979)

Calls on Israel to cease, on an urgent
basis, the establishment, construction, and planning of settlements in the
Palestinian Territories, occupied since 1967, including Jerusalem.

452
(20 July 1979)

Expects Israel cease, on an urgent
basis, the establishment, construction, and planning of settlements in the
Palestinian Territories, occupied since 1967, including Jerusalem.

465
(1 March 1980)

Expects Israel cease, the establishment,
construction, and planning of illegal settlements in the Palestinian
Territories, occupied since 1967, including Jerusalem.

471
(5 June 1980)

Demands prosecution of those involved in
the assassination attempt of West Bank leaders and compensation for damages;
Expects demands to comply by Fourth Geneva Convention.

484
(19 December 1980)

Expects
Israeli compliance with the Fourth Geneva Convention.

573
(4 October 1985)

Condemns
the Government of Israeli with respect to the attack in Tunisia. Call on Israel
to pay compensation for human and material losses from its attack and to
refrain from all such attacks or threats of attacks against other nations.

592
(8 December 1986)

Demands Israel comply with the Fourth
Geneva Conventions in all Occupied Palestinian Territories including East
Jerusalem.

605
(22 December 1987)

Calls upon the Government of Israel, the
Occupying Power, to comply by the Fourth Geneva Convention.

607
(5 January 1988)

Expects Israel to comply with the Fourth
Geneva Convention as well as cease its practice of deportations from the
Occupied Palestinian Territories.

608
(14 January 1988), 636 (6 July 1989), 641 (30 August 1989)

Expects that Israel cease the
deportations of Palestinian people from the Occupied Palestinian Territories.

672
(12 October 1990)

Expects Israel to comply by the
provisions of the Fourth Geneva Convention in the Occupied Palestinian
Territories.

673
(24 October 1990)

Demands
that the Israel come into compliance with UN Resolution 672.

681
(20 December 1990)

Expects
Israel to comply with the Fourth Geneva Convention with respect to the Occupied
Palestinian Territories including East Jerusalem.

694
(24 May 1991)

Expects that Israel stop Palestinian
civilian deportation from the Occupied Palestinian Territories and ensure the
safe and immediate return of deportees.

726
(6 January 1992)

Expects Israel to comply with the
provisions of the Fourth Geneva Convention and to cease its deportation
practice from Occupied Palestinian Territories.

799
(18 December 1992)

Reaffirms
Fourth Geneva Convention to all Palestinian Territories occupied by Israel
since 1967, including Jerusalem. Also affirms that deportation of civilians
constitutes a contravention of its obligations under the Convention.

904
(18 March 1994)

Israel is called upon, as the occupying
power, to take and implement measures, inter alia, confiscation of arms, with
the aim of preventing illegal acts of violence by settlers.

1073
(28 September 1996)

Calls on the safety and security of Palestinian civilians to be ensured.

1322
(7 October 2000)

Calls upon Israel to comply with the
Fourth Geneva Convention regarding the responsibilities of the occupying power
in the Palestinian Territories.

1402
(30 March 2002)

Calls for Israel to withdraw from Palestinian cities.

1403
(4 April 2002)

Demands
that the Government of Israel go through with the implementation of UNSC
Resolution 1402.

1405
(19 April 2002)

UN inspector call to investigate civilian deaths during Israel’s assault on the Palestinian Jenin refugee camp.

1435
(24 September 2002)

Calls on Israel to withdraw to positions
of September 2000 and end its military activities in and around Ramallah,
including the destruction of security and civilian infrastructure.

Isri Salmonii says:

http://unispal.un.org/UNISPAL.NSF/0/DDE590C6FF232007852560DF0065FDDB

UNITED NATIONS Security Council – BINDING AND INTERNATIONAL LAW
RECOGNISED BY THE VATICAN CHURCH

S/RES/478 (1980) 20 August 1980

Resolution 478 (1980) of 20 August 1980

The Security Council,

Recalling its resolution 476 (1980),

Reaffirming again that the acquisition of territory by force is
inadmissible,

Deeply concerned over the enactment of a “basic law” in
the Israeli Knesset proclaiming a change in the character and status of the
Holy City of Jerusalem, with its implications for peace and security,

Noting that Israel has not complied with resolution 476 (1980),

Reaffirming its determination to examine practical ways and means, in
accordance with the relevant provisions of the Charter of the United Nations,
to secure the full implementation of its resolution 476 (1980), in the event of
non-compliance by Israel,

1. Censures in the strongest terms
the enactment by Israel of the “basic law” on Jerusalem and the
refusal to comply with relevant Security Council resolutions;

2. Affirms that the enactment of the
“basic law” by Israel constitutes a violation of international law
and does not affect the continued application of the Geneva Convention relative
to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War, of 12 August 1949, in the
Palestinian and other Arab territories occupied since June 1967, including
Jerusalem;

3. Determines that all legislative
and administrative measures and actions taken by Israel, the occupying Power,
which have altered or purport to alter the character and status of the Holy
City of Jerusalem, and in particular the recent “basic law” on Jerusalem,
are null and void and must be rescinded forthwith;

4. Affirms also that this action
constitutes a serious obstruction to achieving a comprehensive, just and
lasting peace in the Middle East;

5. Decides not to recognize the
“basic law” and such other actions by Israel that, as a result of
this law, seek to alter the character and status of Jerusalem and calls upon:

(a) All Member States to accept this decision;

(b) Those States that have established
diplomatic missions at Jerusalem to withdraw such missions from the Holy City;

6. Requests the Secretary-General to
report to the Security Council on the implementation of the present resolution
before 15 November 1980;

7. Decides to remain seized of
this serious situation.

Isri Salmonii says:

Palestine has been recognised by the UN as a non-member UN STATE last November. Only one European nation opposed Palestine’s statehood bid and that was the Czech Republic though they have stipulated that they do support a Palestinian State at a later date. The International Court of Justice’s ruling of the “separation barrier” and its illegality was supported in a UN Resolution endorsed by the European Union and the world. Please also see below (one of 150 UN Resolutions).

http://unispal.un.org/UNISPAL.NSF/0/DDE590C6FF232007852560DF0065FDDB

UNITED NATIONS Security Council – BINDING

S/RES/478 (1980) 20 August 1980
Resolution 478 (1980) of 20 August 1980

The Security Council,

Recalling its resolution 476 (1980),

Reaffirming again that the acquisition of territory by force is
inadmissible,

Deeply concerned over the enactment of a “basic law” in
the Israeli Knesset proclaiming a change in the character and status of the Holy City of Jerusalem, with its implications for peace and security,

Noting that Israel has not complied with resolution 476 (1980),

Reaffirming its determination to examine practical ways and means, in accordance with the relevant provisions of the Charter of the United Nations, to secure the full implementation of its resolution 476 (1980), in the event of non-compliance by Israel,

1. Censures in the strongest terms
the enactment by Israel of the “basic law” on Jerusalem and the
refusal to comply with relevant Security Council resolutions;

2. Affirms that the enactment of the
“basic law” by Israel constitutes a violation of international law
and does not affect the continued application of the Geneva Convention relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War, of 12 August 1949, in the Palestinian and other Arab territories occupied since June 1967, including
Jerusalem;

3. Determines that all legislative
and administrative measures and actions taken by Israel, the Occupying Power, which have altered or purport to alter the character and status of the Holy City of Jerusalem, and in particular the recent “basic law” on Jerusalem, are null and void and must be rescinded forthwith;

4. Affirms also that this action constitutes a serious obstruction to achieving a comprehensive, just and lasting peace in the Middle East;

5. Decides not to recognize the “basic law” and such other actions by Israel that, as a result of this law, seek to alter the character and status of Jerusalem and calls upon:

(a) All Member States to accept this decision;

(b) Those States that have established
diplomatic missions at Jerusalem to withdraw such missions from the Holy City;

6. Requests the Secretary-General to
report to the Security Council on the implementation of the present resolution before 15 November 1980;

7. Decides to remain seized of
this serious situation.

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